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I have been collecting opinions on juicers for a while. Here's the scoop:
10 Jun 1999 - From: Jim
I too have a Green Power and really like it. The taste of the fruit & vegetable juice is pure. Far better than my old centrifugal juicer.
10 Jun 1999 - From: Sara Shooter
My first juicer was a centrifugal. The apple juice it produced was always brown, and it produced a lot of waste (very wet pulp). I now have a Green Power Plus and it produces superb juice and very dry pulp.
24 May 1999 - From: Nomi
Green Life and Green Power are virtually the same machine, The Green Life has a longer warrantee and I see no reason to buy the Green Power over the Green Life. They are excellent and versatile machines. Re: an earlier question re: happy with Champion The main reason to 'trade up" would be if you want to do wheatgrass juice (and don't want two machines on the counter), if you juice lots of tender greens, if you want only one machine that does it all. The Champion remains a wonderful and convenient machine, and although the juice is rated higher with the Green L or P- it doesn't mean the juice that the Champion puts out is bad! It is still a great juicer. Re: the Angel- this is a highly rated machine but it does JUICE ONLY- you can not make pates, nut butters, yam pies, banana ice cream with it, etc- it has more of a commercial application- like a juice bar and less of a home application because of its limited functionality. If I had no equipment and budget was not an issue- I would definately buy a Green Life (or Power). If the budget really mattered , and I had no plans to juice wheatgrass, a Champion would be fine. If I were very ill and needed nothing but the very best-Green Life or Power gets my vote again. I hope that this helps to clarify and not confuse the juicer issue. And YES I think TEETH are also a very wonderful juicer!!!-
24 May 1999 - From: Heidi
A friend has a Champion and it seems to be a good juicer, except it can't handle wheatgrass. The grass just wraps itself around the inside. The Green Power which I have juices the grass in the blink of an eye. So it really depend what you want to do with it. The GP does also some other things which I rally have not tested, like mochi making.
24 May 1999 - From: Taran
i had a champion and gave it up for a green power and i love the green power. it is way easier to juice greens and the juice from greens is a lot better than from the champion. i find the green power doesnt do the hard veggies as well, like carrots and it cant really do dry nuts. but overall it is so much better. just have to get used to the assembly and cleaning. so i guess if you want to juice greens including wheatgrass or you want the juice to last longer i would get the gp, otherwise your champion is fine.
06 Apr 1999 - From: Carol
Robert, The GL is the juicer I would prefer for the warranty factor, price and it's basically same as GP w/o bells/whistles (mochi maker, pasta maker). You have 5 yr. warranty with GL and GP only 2 yrs. GL cheaper, GP expensive. You're fine with your GL warranty. I was sharing w/grp. to know these differences before you spend $$. GP was the only one here in US when I purchased about 18 mos. or so ago. I love the GP however. GL is the same quality I understand. Call to GP: Spoke to customer svc. Complaint being passed on to pres. No reply yet, but seeing him and tons of the other health ministers next wk. making it point to meet with the GP Pres. there for sure. Convinced no GP recommendation for me to anyone.
05 Apr 1999 - From: Carol
Did you know the Green Power warranty is bad news? Here's the deal: GP/2 yr. warranty, more expensive for few frills GLife, 5 yr. warranty, same machine, minus few unnec. frills, and cheaper by bunches. Pls. write them to express your views. I'm concerned because when I bought mine there was only Green Power. I do however love the machine, but disappointed that spending so much money brings less of a warranty by years and hundreds. Can't figure this thinking out. Pls. join me and others in writing them a note. Email address & phone below. Pls. remember call GP about the horrible guarantee of 2 yrs., more expensive vs. GL cheaper and 5 yr. warranty.
Thanks. Together we can make difference.
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7 Feb 1999 - From: Rex Harrill
If you showed me a dozen reasons a Green Power was awkward, or hard to clean, or expensive, or whatever---I would still cling to mine because of that juice storing so well. Almost from the first day, GP owners notice that the juice doesn't turn brown (oxidize, i.e, die). This point may be so important that all other points are moot.
Why would anyone think that glupping down your juice (just before it turns bad in your glass) miraculously allows it to remain good juice? My guess is that the juice is dying and drinking it quickly just moves it to an out-of-sight place where your body has to detoxify it.
I swear by mine (no, I have ZERO connection with them---just a very satisfied user).
I did not notice that the Green Power ejects more pulp into your juice as time goes on, and I have had it for two years. However, I did try the coarser screen a few times and quickly decided I didn't like the pulp it let pass through.
7 Feb 1999 - From: BJ
I have owned a Champion and a Green Power. In my opinion the Champion was easier to clean and produced juice faster.
The Green Power is good for people who like to store juice and people who do wheatgrass. I will grow several trays of wheatgrass and store my juice in 1 oz. frozen containers (I buy the containers at Sam's). It used to take me several hours to juice my supply of wheatgrass with a Wheetena and now I can do several trays of wheatgrass in a few minutes.
The only negatives with wheatgrass is that the Green Power produces lots of foam and doesn't get as much juice out of the wheatgrass as my Wheetena (from what I have read the foam is a result of a foam producing substance in wheatgrass and not oxidation). However, these negatives are a small price to pay for the speed.
I have had my Green Power for a year and it does a good job with carrots and green leafy vegetables . . . better than the Champion. The feeding chute backs up with apples (it looks like applesauce). I overcome this problem alternating carrots with apples.
Overall I like my Green Power. However, I do miss the speed and ease of cleaning of my old Champion.
A question I have for other Green Power owners . . . have you noticed that the Green Power ejects more pulp into your juice as time goes on? Mine does and I was wondering if anyone has come up with a solution for the problem.
05 Feb 1999 - From: Heide
I have a Green Power and I am pleased with it. I especially like the way it does wheatgrass. Heide
05 Feb 1999 - From: Greg Miller
We've been quite pleased with our Green Power. Doesn't seem slow at all. I've heard from others who say it's a bit more to clean, but they seem about the same to me. Also works well for soft fruits and wheatgrass. There is a special soft fruit attachment available that helps a lot for this. Several months ago I was at a raw potluck where two bottles of carrot juice were sitting side by side. One was juiced with a Champion and the other was juiced with the Green Power. Several hours later, despite sitting in a tray of ice water, the Champion juice was brown and oxidized, while the Green Power juice was still bright orange. That was all the proof I needed
24 Jan 1999 - From: RPnpRP
Do not recommend for soft friuts...especially pineapple...The juicer vibrates and shakes a bit with hard vegetables...not real sure you get a good amount of juice...very disappointed
16 Apr 1998 - From: Jason Freitas
Have used the Green Power Juicer for the last 2 months. It's my first juicer so can't really compare it to anything. Am happy with it although I'm a little concerned about the force I used initially when I got it. You see, I didn't cut the carrots into thin enough pieces. The result, I used a lot of pressure with wooden plunger which I'm wondering now if it contributed to the fact the unit wobbles up/down (slightly) at the end even though the thumb screws are tight!
4 Mar 1998 - From: Martha Ash
Heide, I agree. The GP does a great job on wheatgrass. I also use it every morning for soft fruit (citrus) juices and in the evening for a carrot-based veggie juice. I've found it to be very versatile. To anyone thinking of buying one, be sure to get the soft fruit attachment if you intend to juice soft fruit. It makes a difference.
9 Feb 1998 - From: Martha Ash
I'm having much more success jucing soft fruits with my Green Power. I have the outlet adjusting knob for soft fruits. The trick is to start with it loosened a few turns and keep it that way. Now none of the pulp backs up into the feed chute. The GP gets LOTS of juice from the citrus fruits I've been juicing--500cc from a grapefruit, 2 small oranges, and half a lemon and lime.
3 Feb 1998 - From: Martha Ash
Paul, The pulp that comes out of the soft fruit attachment is dry--almost as dry as the carrot pulp. Trouble is, most of it backs up instead of coming out. The pulp that backs up is not dry. For the record, the GP gets a lot more juice out of citrus fruit than my Juiceman Jr, did, and it tastes delicious. mark and I start every day with a juice made of 1 large grapefruit, 2 oranges, half a lemon and half a lime. It really gives me a lot of energy for the day.
02 Feb 1998 - From: Carol
Hi Martha/Paul & other GP users: I've got a great handle on the GP finally. Soft fruits like apples, for making juice I find you need to alternate with carrots, actually beginning with carrots. You can play with the front white piece adjustment to widen the hole, but I have found the carrot/apple pushing through to work well. GP suggests the carrot first, then the apple with skin facing you, then carrot, and alternate. Now for orange juice we peel thinly organic oranges, and play with the white, nozzle in front to get the great consistency of the orange juice to be made and for the pulp to keep coming out. It seems to work well when I overload same doing veg. juices when it looks like it's getting stuck. I have made apple sauce, changing the screen to the homogenizer one, adding lemon to it, sometimes banana and calling that frozen desert if I used the frozen bananas. I have also made wonderful simple dressing: fresh peeled garlic, large ones preferred fresh lemon with skin run all through GP using the regular juicing screen. Pour all onto salad. Wow, tastes wonderful and you smell "strong." Write if you need something else answered. Hope this helps. Carol (CO) email@example.com
13 Jan 1998 - From: Canann
Robin - Are you using the fine screen for citrus? Have you tried changing screens? I have never had a problem juicing citrus except when husband put gears together improperly. I use the fine screen. Somebody recently posted an 800 # for problems with the GP - I'd try it. For me, I loved my Champion but would never go back to it after GP. :) Alyssa
13 Jan 1998 - From: Schumacher
I enjoyed reading your reviews of juicers on your website. Here's my two cents worth:
I just bought a Green Power mainly because of reviews I had read which stated that juice could be refrigerated up to 48 hours without losing any value. Although I have no way of verifying this, I will say that the carrot/apple juice I make every day stays bright orange with the GP while the same blend made with my Champion turns mostly brown overnight. In the Green Power's favor, I can say it is quieter than the Champion and produces a little drier pulp. The juice also seems a little richer. On the negative side, the GP does a horrible job with oranges and other citrus (I have a battle every time with pulp backing up in the feeding area), is more difficult to clean and doesn't seem as heavy duty as the Champion. Right now, I'd have to say that if I wasn't going to the "juice-and-save" thing, I'd have probably stuck with the Champion. Robin Schumacher Louisville Gas & Electric (502) 627-2729 - Phone (502) 627-2572 - Fax Robin.Schumacher@lgeenergy
7 Jan 1998 - From: Tom
Martha- The Green Power juicer works like a clothes wringer; it needs a thin end to grab onto. Cut the carrots and other tough roots with one narrow wedge end, so they can be fed into the twin gear more easily. >>>>>>>>>>> Tom
7 Jan 1998 - From: Alyssa
have not had such a problem with carrots - are you sure it's all put together correctly? check that the gears are together with the dots aligned properly and pushed far enough in - my husband had some problems with clogging when we first got it that were due to his not putting it together exactly right - also be sure carrots are not so fat that they fill the whole chute - I think Carol mentioned that - thanks Carol for the toll- free number - I haven't needed it yet but will file for future use
06 Jan 1998 - From: Carol
I've been using GP since Oct. Noticed slivers in the plastic which they are aware of and not everyone's does this.
Use the wooden plunger only. Works best and sturdy.
Juicing carrots: using fine grader, knobs on side pretty tight, not very tight, juices well. Your carrots could be very dried out...maybe dry batch. I get lots of carrots when I juice. I buy organic, trim top/bottom, and then crank away. Try this or email me for further questions.
Here's GP, #...ask to speak to techn. Don't buy into that they will call you back...they don't...call them back if nec., but don't leave msg....it doesn't work. Experience proved that. GP in CA, USA 1 888 254 7336
They don't respond to email either....call best way to get ans.
Get the "outlet adjusting knob" kind of tight is what I was referring to to get more juice. If you have too loose you may be having your problem. Look on p. 11 of book if you don't understand what that piece is. It's the last piece that I put onto machine that sticks out closest to you with a slot for turning.
I find it goes very quickly. I wash carrots, trim top/bottom, trim the real fat tops and put them in separately as you don't want to have to turn off machine if you put fat carrots into the feeding chute which is hard to push down with the wooden plunger.
Hope this works. I'm here if you need me.
3 Jan 1998 - From: Paul Ladendorf
Carol, You might try loosening the spring adjuster where the pulp comes out about 1 full turn or so. I have not had any problems making apple juice with mine, however. Have you or do you know anyone who has purchased the spring adjuster designed for juicing citrus? If so, does it work well? Best regards, Paul Ladendorf
6 Jan 1998 - From: Martha Ash
Just got my long-awaited-for green power juicer and am terribly disappointed with my first effort at carrot juice. I could only juice about 1/2 of each carrot; it wouldn't juice the remainder, and I didn't want to press too hard. Am I doing something wrong? It also took a very long time.
30 Dec 1997 - From: Tom
A good feature on the GP is the fuse, which saved the machine for me once as I plugged it straight into a German socket with using a transformer. You can imagine my relief!
30 Dec 1997 - From: Wingbermel
Have used the Green Power for only 1 month but couldn't do without it. Had a Juiceman Jr. NO COMPARISON. The pulp is so dry I couldn't imagine any Juice left. Clean up easy, only negitive is size but willing to find the space in my small kitchen for this great machine.
30 Dec 1997 - From: Paul D Ladendorf
Troy, I have owned a Green Power for 6 mos., have used it fairly regularly, and am happy with it. They did a study about the "longevity" of the juice - which I have a copy. Let me know and I will see if I can dig up the phone number if you want to get a copy of it. The study didn't really make sense to me though. Green Power does wheatgrass! I don't know about the Angel. I've heard a lot of people say that their Green Power broke down shortly after purchase. If the Angel is more reliable and does wheatgrass, I would buy it. And about the bioceramic mumbojumbo - I would like to see the proof. Sounds great in theory. Good luck.
29 Nov 1997 - From: taran
my plastic plunger is almost kaput. i did get a wooden one. no housing cracks but the blade did break. keep an eye on you rblades. if the plastic starts to turn on the steel then its broken. i still love it, just wish it was more heavy duty..
Mon, 29 Dec 1997 - From: Carol
Been using GP for past few months. Comments: watch housing as mine is cracking, as well as the other molded part at very end of juicer where juice comes out. Plastic plunger worthless, but wooden one does great job. There are fine cracks, but still cracks which I never had with Champion. I feel juicing goes very quickly, and find clean up time also quick and easy. Quality of juice great. Do it again: yes.
26 Nov 1997 - From: Carol
Earlier this wk. spoke to GP cause my plastic pusher/plunger split in half. GP said it was supposed to come with wooden pusher as well, which never saw on box or in product info. so didn't know that. They are sending wooden one, but they want me to send in plastic cracked on to show I'm not lying.
Today, noticed tiny crack on piece immediately goes onto machine first...more like a tiny fracture. Wondering if the pressure of using the plastic pusher caused these 1-2 tiny fracture lines to be visible. Know there is 2 yrs. gurantee, but do we need to ck. this regularly. Have never noticed this w/Champion, although I love this so much better.
1 Oct 97 - From Alyssa
Have had the Green Power 2 months and still raving (positively) about it. Don't know about breaking easily. It's a great machine for homogenizing without heating whatever you're homogenizing. The juice output is much greater than the Champion (pulp much drier of course). We have a manual press that we crank (not automatic or electric (?) like the Norwalk) and have not used it much since getting the Green Power because the pulp is so dry it's hardly worth it. (We used to juice with the Champion and then press the resulting pulp in the manual press.) I like it for food processing/preparation AND juicing but can't address question of GP vs. Norwalk or others for juicing only.
29 Sep 1997 - Anonymous
We recently (2 months ago) retired our Champion in favor of the Green Machine and I can't say enough in favor of the latter. The Green Machine can do everything the Champion can do and more plus do all the things the Champion does better than the Champion. It's about twice as much in cost (or more) and worth every bit. The twin gear system generates little or no heat especially compared with the Champion which can get quite hot. We estimate that we get 2-3 times as much juice out of fruits and vegetables using the Green Machine over the Champion. For preparing essene breads and other homogenized foods the Green Machine is a miracle worker. Also there is a wonderful recipe book Living with Green Power that is built around use of the Green Machine (you can do the recipes with a Champion too - just takes longer and more work). Good luck and welcome!
13 Mar 97 - From Moran
I own the Champion and have tried the Green Power. I plan to purchase the Green Power for Christmas funds permitting. The quality of the juice from the green power is amazing. You can just tell by the taste that it hasn't been introduced to as much heat. Even wheatgrass juice (which the champion doesn't do) tastes fresh and natural.
29 Sep 1997 - From Paul Ladendorf
I've used them both [the Champion and Green Power models] and they're both good IMO. It depends on what's most important to you. The Champion is a little bit easier to clean up. The Green Power puts out much better quality juice IMO. Green Power does wheatgrass. Wheatgrass juicers alone are over $100. Green Power is much quieter. Some have had problems w/Green Power, I have not. While Champions last forever. Green Power costs over twice as much as Champion. I will stick w/Green Power.
15 Mar 1997 - from Bob Avery
Yes, [ the Green Power juicer so much better that it is worth the extra investment] but Gabriel Cousens says it's not very durable -- prone to breaking down (unlike the indestructible Champ). He says a much better one comparable in juice quality and price is the Angel Food Mill, also a Korean brand.
10 Feb 1998 - From: Danielsmith
The norwalk juices faster than the other juicers even thought you say it is hard to clean up whitch is wrong
21 Dec 97 -From rawtimes
I bought a norwalk juicer last week I recommend it It cost approximately 2000 dollars I have wanted one for 8 years, and am glad I bought it I looks nice in my kitchen, all stainless steel It is heavy and sturdy I think it will outlive me
The company is pure class I stupidly didn't assemble it right on the second day When I called to ask for help, He didn't understand exactly what I did wrong He said that I had options 1. I could return it for a full refund 2. They would ship me another one immediately overnight mail 3. more people would call me back to resolve the problem I like that they are so accommodating. It works just fine really, my mistake, nevermind.
Yesterday I made pear juice and also grape juice To make the pear juice, I cut the pears into quarters, and pushed them into the titrater tube (the titrater has the blade in the middle to cut the food into little pieces and it has a selection of metal filter size holes to go underneath the blade) I put a bag under the tube, and then folded the sides of the bag around to seal it I put the bag in the press part, And pressed it by placing the side lever up And watching the press surface go up. I got very clear and nice tasting juice Around a quart.
Then I pressed concord grapes I didn't have to titurate the grapes by putting them into the tube The press was good enough.
The day before I made pomegranate juice I cut the fruit into quarters, and pressed them No need to titurate them either.
I have made lots of other juices this week I made pineapple juice Once again, I followed the directions that come with the book (They have advice on lots of different juices, Including potatoes, onions, citrus, lots more) And cut the pineapple into 1 inch slices, Wrapped in cloth, And just put into the press
Today I bought fuji apples, kiwi fruit, and more pomegranates All organic I will juice them tomorrow
It isn't so hard to clean No worse than the champion There are only a few removable parts The tube with top tray and blades, And the press tray Soak the bags and squeeze them And store the bags in the freezer The stainless steel cleans spotless Although the kitchen counter gets kinda messy, I am getting better I don't get the ceiling messy anymore And the cabinets only a little
25 Nov 1997 - From Mark Hovila
I love the juice the Norwalk makes, and I especially love the green juice it makes. The last time I tried to juice greens in my Acme, the machine broke and hasn't worked since. As a wheatgrass juicer the Norwalk is a disappointment, however, because it gets too hot. They suggest juicing it with other veggies to keep it cool, but if you want straight wheatgrass juice you need to juice ice cubes with it. I am planning to buy a wheatgrass juicer, something I had not planned on when I bought the Norwalk.
As for cleanup, the only part that is a hassle is cleaning the bags. Anybody with time saving tips on this, please let me know. Cleaning the juicer itself is very quick, more so than the Champion or Acme.
They claim that the juicer makes substantially more juice than the others, and that seems to be true, though I haven't measured it. I have owned a Champion and an Acme, and I can say that the pulp from both of those machines was much, much wetter than that from the Norwalk, which is practically bone dry.
Thu, 11 Sep - from Bob Avery
I had an AEG oncd briefly, didn't like it -- too flimsy, didn't extract well. You can buy spare parts from J & V Consultants. They sell 'em. They must get a big commission on them because they push 'em. I returned mine for an Acme that I like a lot better.
7 Feb 1999 - From: Gerald Hochstetler
You KNOW you are getting the full benefit, because the juice has not oxidized. With my centrifugal, there was always the suspicion that some or most of the nutrition was oxidized (killed) before the body could put it to use. It didn't taste the best either after only 20 minutes or so. With the Angel juicer, I can drink at a slow pace (up to two hours) and the juice stays good. Centrifugal juicers are certainly better than none at all, but I feel that twin gears stand tall above them. If anyone is in the market for a juicer, these things are food for thought
5 Feb 1999 - From: Gerald Hochstetler
I wonder if the Green Life is also very slow. I had an e-mail exchange with a sales rep from Omega last year. She warned me about the slowness of the twin gear design. It nearly scared me off. Another e-mail was from someone whose friend had one (an Angel) and this person hated it because it plugged up frequently. This really made me nervous about them. But I finally ordered the Angel with much fear and trembling. (-:) (-:) After all, $650 was a LOT of money for a juicer. That was approx 8 months ago. I have not been disappointed. It has never plugged up for me. Nor is the speed terribly slow. The total time from start to cleanup is about the same as it was with our centrifugal. The feed speed is little slower with the Angel. It probably would be too slow for, say, a juice bar. But I no longer need to empty the pulp bin during juicing. Cleaning the Angel is very easy. I guess maybe it's somewhat a matter of perception. Anyway, I personally am very glad I wasn't scared off by the bad reports. Does anyone else have a Green Power who thinks it is extremely slow? What about any other twin gear owners?
4 Feb 1999 - From: Gerald Hochstetler
I own a centrifugal juicer (Sanyo) with beveled sides and an Angel twin-gear. The Angel is SO much better at producing quality veggie juice. I suspect the juice quality is even better than that of the Norwalk press, as the veggies are never processed at high speed. I understand that the Norwalk calls for the items to be shredded at high speed before being pressed. Somebody please correct me if I wrong. The drawback of my Angel is that it doesn't do anything other than juice veggies and wheatgrass. Fruit just comes out the end as a mush, without producing much juice. Nor does it make nut butters, etc. This suits our family just fine, as we don't mess around with fruit juice or nut butters. We eat the fruit and juice the veggies. I cannot speak for the Green Life or Green Power. They are advertised as being able to juice fruits. But so is the Omega 8000. Reviews of the 8000 indicate that it does fruit poorly, if at all. Like the Angel. So you can't always believe what the ads tell you. So it depends what you want in a juicer. If you're like us, wanting only top quality veggie juice, the Angel or Omega 8000 is DEFINITELY the way to go. If I wanted a more versatile machine, I would buy the Green Life. I don't think I could recommend a centrifugal juicer, unless you are very hard-pressed for money. The juice from these oxidizes VERY rapidly. The taste (and nutrition) degrades almost before you have time to drink it. The Champion is much better, but still no match for the twin gear design, IMO. Foam produced by the twin gear? Ours produces zero foam when juicing veggies. It is the centrifugal one that produces LOTS of foam. The foam results from air being spun into the juice by the high speed. Yes, the foam is definitely an indication that air is in the juice, and rapid oxidation is sure to follow.
2 Apr 1998 - From: Gerald Hochstetler
I have had my Angel Food juicer for several weeks now and I am very pleased with its performance. The vegetable juice quality is excellent. The pulp is quite dry. I store the gears in the freezer between uses. Then when I make juice, it is cooled in the process. The juicer operates at low RPM which doesn't add air to the juice. This produces the best quality juice I have seen. The juicer costs about $650. It doesn't juice fruit though. Anything softer than a very crisp apple comes out as a mush and very little juice is produced. The juicer is designed to juice tougher items like veggies which it does very well.
Just a few notes on the Angel Food juicer. It works great for vegetable juice. It's a little slower than a centrifugal juicer, but the juice quality is MUCH better. It doesn't add air to the juice like a centrifugal, thus reducing oxidation and preserving nutrition. If you store the grinding gears in the refrigerator between uses, the juice is cooled while it's being made. This helps reduce nutrient loss even further. It is very efficient at wringing the maximum amount of juice from the veggies. The pulp is fairly dry. It is probably more efficient than most juicers on the market. I don't know about long-term durability. I do know the company has been around for about 15 years in Korea. The model I have is made of almost all stainless steel. It is built like an army tank. It looks like it will probably outlive me. :) Cleanup is fairly simple. The Angel is not the perfect juicer, however. It is very expensive. $650 plus shipping. If it lasts many years, then it is worth spending that much on it if you have the money. It certainly looks like it should last many years. Another drawback is that it doesn't make fruit juice. Anything softer than a crisp apple simply turns to mush. I tried juicing pears, apples, and melons. Only the very crisp apples produced a decent amount of juice. Anything softer simply came out the pulp ejector as mush, and very little juice was produced. I ate the fruit that came through the pulp ejector. It was like eating puree. It was good but it wasn't juice. This is not a problem for me because I usually just eat fruit rather than juicing it. If you demand fruit juice, this juicer will not produce it. It is designed to juice tougher items like roots, veggies, and pine needles. The manual also says it can grind grain. I don't know whether it does. I haven't tried it. I am very pleased with the juicer so far. It produces more juice and better quality than my old centrifugal juicer. Would I buy it again? Probably. If it lasts many years, yes. This remains to be seen. If you have any questions or comments feel free to e-mail me at Compuserve. If no response try: firstname.lastname@example.org Angel Juicer phone is 213-381-7800.
30 Dec 1997 - From: Sarah Kathryn Haddock
Angel produces two models both of which can be seen here: http://www.takechargeprogram.com/1080600.htm This is a blurb off the web page:
The Angel Juicer, with its unique slow revolution motor (less than 100 RPM), prevents oxidation maintaining enzyme activity. This juice extractor is the only appliance of its type that has the capability of extracting juice from FRUITS, VEGETABLES and WHEATGRASS, unlike centrifugal or masticating juicers. You can make wheatgrass juice in combination with carrots, beets, celery, etc. without having to use separate juicers. In addition to juicing all fruits and vegetables, the Angel can grind grain, soybeans, coffee beans and nuts! The Angel's gear system is the first extractor gearing system to be awarded U.S. patent rights and is the winner of 3 international awards. This unique, twin gear design comprises two interlocking 100% stainless steel gears delivering truly awesome crushing power, extracting all the juice and nutrients from fruits and vegetables. This means you have far more squeezing power that penetrates inside the hidden plant membrane to bring out the full enzyme, vitamin and mineral content. No juicer (except the very expensive Norwalk) even comes close to the squeezing power of Angel.The classico VII has a hard plastic casing vrs the Ultima III's steel casing. From what little information I could gather on them they use a simular two gear/low revolution (100rpm) juicing mechanism as the green power juicer, which should make for similar juicing quality/capability. The primary difference (that I've been able distinquish) is the GP which uses a plastic thread on a steel gear, where the angel uses an all steel gear, and the angel doesn't do any biomagnetic mumbo jumbo (which I'm a bit skeptical of making a big impact on the juice anyway). This conceivably should make that part of the juicer more durable. The ultima which doesn't have any plastic shell to split (a problem I hear with the GP) should also be more durable. Both the GP and the Angel are marketed by Korean companies, and have good backgrounds (as far as I've been able to determine), so if something does break you can get replacements. Green Power comes with a two year warrenty, and the angel comes with 1 year.
Wed, 9 Jul 1997 - From taran
i have heard of the angel too. it looked like the green power for the most part except it had more stainless steel parts than green power but it had no magnetic properties. green power claims the magnetism structures the juice so that it's nutrients lasts longer. as well more nutrients are puilled into the juice..
Tue, 30 Sep 1997- From Mark Hovila
I just got some info from Angel America Inc., distributors of the Angel Juice Extractor. This machine, along with the Green Power, was reviewed in Gabriel Cousens's newsletter a few months ago. The Angel came off looking much better than the Green Power in the review, a conclusion which was based on input from a number of users of the machines. Angel America's literature even claims their juicer is better than the Norwalk. I intend to buy either the Angel or the Norwalk within a couple of days, depending on answers to some questions I intend to pose to both companies. Angel America sells the basic model for $599, but as a distributor you could get it for $450 if you place 10 orders. I am leaning toward getting the Angel, but I can't wait to find 9 other buyers to go in with me. The Norwalk is around $1900-$2100. Anybody who has experience with either the Angel or Norwalk, please speak up soon, because I am going to buy soon, like maybe even tomorrow!
Angel America's phone number is 213-381-7800.
04 Feb 1999 - From: Neil
hello all- i was glad to see all the info that went up on steps re. juicing. there is one more point i'd like to add and i feel it is crucial. i had read walker's(inventor of norwalk juicer) classic book on juicing, and in it he wrote that juicers with baskets that have a vertical wall vs. those with beveled walls are to be avoided becos the juice is inferior. he said it had something to do with the vertical walls destroying vital nutrients. i am not sure how he figured this out except of course by trial and error. given that he was long-lived(over 100 y.o. i've been told) and that he is an expert on juice, i've decided to pay attention to this point and get rid of my acme. who needs the hassle of cleaning, a lack of pulp ejecting, and inferior juice? looks like twin gear as in green power may be best way to go now since acme and olympic(which are guilty of having vertcal wall baskets) are now superceded by these better units. anyone with these twin gear juicers, does the foam i hear that's created seem to you to be a sign of oxidation? do you have ANY reservations about the twin gear units? total unqualified recommendations, or are there some doubts? thanks. neil
3 Mar 19984 - From: Ronn
Hi all, Ronn here.
Someone on the list just mentioned the new Omega Twin Gear, saying they heard (or were told) it would be available shortly. For what it's worth, here's what I was told when I contacted the company on February 9th. First, let me explain, I've been very anxious to find out when it would be available, as I've been holding off buying a Greenpower to see what the Omega would be like. I was searching through the Juicers section at the All Raw Times website, and saw a notice posted 4 Dec. 97, saying Omega Products will have the new twin gear available in the first quarter of 98.
I emailed them, asking if they could give me a definite date of availability, and received an email back which read: "MY NAME IS JAMIE PASCOTTI I AM VP OF SALES AND MARKETING OF OMEGA PRODUCTS PLEASE CALL ME AT 1.800.633.3401 TO FURTHER DISCUSS YOUR INQUIRY"
After trying to get hold of him over several days (he was always out, in a meeting, on another line, at lunch, etc.) I finally talked to him. I found what he said rather discouraging. He was one of those "fast talkers" who makes it difficult to get a word in edgewise, so it was hard to ask him everything I wanted to. At first he said the new twin gear was still probably about 3 months out (this was around the 12th of Feb. when I got hold of him), then towards the end of our conversation he said it wouldn't be available for 3 to 5 months! When I told him I was interested in the Greenpower, he went into a very negative "tirade" against it. I'm not going to repeat here what he said, but it was all bad. Having read posts on this list from people who own Greenpowers and seem to be real happy with them, I decided this guy was going overboard with his criticism. I asked if he was familiar with the Angel. He said Angel were the biggest sellers over there (I think he said Korea), selling 15 thousand units a month. He explained that over there, juicers are as popular as toasters are here, and said people eat tons of greens, even making their "tacos" with lettuce. He said Angel's leading guy leaked lies to the media about Angel, and all but ruined their business, then started his own -- Greenpower -- which is now more successful than Angel, just because GP "had a little more panache".
He really surprised me, though, when I asked what the new Omega will be able to do. He said it will be good for juicing grasses (like wheatgrass). I asked if it would be able to juice carrots too, and he said "it CAN do carrots, but it would be SLOW and redundant". I didn't know what he meant by that, but he was off on something else before I could ask. I did get back to the question, though, and asked him "okay, if the new twin gear won't be used for carrots or other vegetables and fruits, what exactly is it for?" His answer: "for serious grassheads".
So this guy didn't like the GP or the Angel, and he didn't even sound enthusiastic about HIS company's new twin gear! The whole thing struck me as pretty strange. If anyone else on the list wants to call him, I sure would be interested to know what he says to you. When I was having trouble getting hold of him, I was told he usually goes to lunch from about 1:30 to 2:15 (ET). If anyone does call and talk with him, please let us know!
So long for now,
4 Dec 1997 - From: SONICDOO@aol.com
attention for your information omega products home of the omega juicer will have available in the first quater of 1998 a twin gear juice extractor . the beauty of this machine is that it has gears similar to the angel juicer and will retail for around 350.00 it will make grass juicing affordable and will be from a company whose reputation speaks for itself. omega also has coming out a new pulp-ejector style juicer that should be available in the first quater of 1998.
1 Oct 1997 - From Aaron Sugarman
We have an omega juicer. It is very easy to clean, and produces, what I feel to be, a good amount of juice. Inexpensive, I paid less than $200. I think I get 20 oz out of 2 lbs of carrots, if I remember correctly. If I let it run for a while after I've gotten my glass, I will get a lot more juice out of it, from the steady drips, and, more juice is more juice, just have to be patient, and be able to tolerate noise. The dog cannot, and does not recommend juicers at all. The pulp is dry if it runs for a while. I love it for it's ease, simplicity, and good supply of clean, pulp free (unless you overload it), juice. I do not use filters. That's all I can say about it.
4 June 1999 - From: Mepond
We received a Juiceman II as a Christmas gift (1998). We juice approximately 4 glasses of juice each day. On May 28, 1999 the Juiceman II died. The motor starting making a strange noise and the machine started to run slowly and then finally died. We are looking at getting a new machine
6 Feb 1999 - From: Sandy
The Juice is cool, and the pulp is fairly dry but you dont get as much as I imagine you get from a specifically designed wheatgrass juicer. But you can throw the pulp back in and get a little more. I dont do wheatgrass regularly, but I got about an ounce the other day from juicing about one handful of wheatgrass. For this price range of juicer, I'm happy with it.
3 Feb 1999 - From: Sandy
I had an acme for years and found it a pain. Because it didnt have a pulp extraction mechanism, you have to clean the basket again if you're making more than a glass or so of juice. I think omega is of similar annoying design.
I now have a juiceman which is in the same price range and I'm happy with it. (Although it is plastic and not as powerful as the much more expensive juicers.) It juices larger quantites at one time, is easier to clean (acme was hard to clean) and it has the added benefit of being able to juice wheatgrass.
On the downside its not as efficient as acme in that from the acme you get more juice per carrot. But you can always rejuice your pulp.
If you havent juiced before, the difficulty of cleaning the juicer can be an important factor in how much you'll juice. Acme's is a real pain.
08 Jul 1998 - From: Kiley Family
I have an old Omega from my Grandfather and love juicing but not the labor of having to stop and empty the basket when juicing for my growing family. After watching the infomercials for the Juiceman II I thought that would be an alternative, but could only find the Jr. What a disappointment.
The juice was great and so was the ease of clean-up, but on the third day my pulp began to be less dry and I thought I was doing something wrong. The distributing company said the basket was designed to be replaced about every six months - adding a $22.00 cost - and is only intended for 2-3 uses per week. Now I'm concerned about my next purchase and planned obselesence. I'm looking at the UltraMiracle and the Champion commercial model. We all really like the life of juicing and now that I know it can be easier as with the Juiceman I don't want to go back to Grampa's. Any suggestions?
5 Feb 1999 - From: Gerry MCoffey
We are distributors for all but the Norwalk and Angel juicers and have used all of them including the Norwalk. (Too much trouble, plus I believe the linen bags used to requeeze the juice to be very unsanitary.) We TRIED hard to like the Green Power due to all its hype about being so superior in quality, but it is just too much of a hassle and VERY slow. We put it away and dragged back our Champion, the workhorse we use for everything. It is so much faster, easier to clean and versatile. Also smaller and takes up less space. Gerry MCoffey
28 Apr 1998 - From: Russell
We here at the Optimum Heath Institute of Austin Put our students on a three day juice diet, it takes a lot of juice. We use a Norwalk but it is very slow. Our major machine is the good old dependable Champion. You can buy 9 Champions for the price of one Norwalk. They are practically indestructable. For extra juice press it out of the pulp. Besides, it makes that wonderful frozen fruit frogart. Try some raw carob mixed with a tiny bit of water to make a wonderful topping. Also, make watermelon juice using the rind and meat. For an extra fine desert try dehydrating 1/4 inch think watermelon slices. Russell
03 Mar 1998 - From: Leon Scheller
I recently bought my Champion juicer and just love it. It cleans up quickly and produces a rich flavorful juice. I surfed around and bought one for $190.00 including shipping. I purchased it from Discount Natural Foods
11 Feb 1998 - From: Shari X-Mailer
Phone number to follow - area code may not be right as I haven't called in a couple of years, but should be able to use this anyway. Shari******************* Plastaket Manufacturing Co., Inc. 6220 E Highway 12 Lodi CA 95240 (209)369-2154
13 Jan 1998 - From: Alan Mikoleit
I've owned both the G.P. and Champion. The Champion was easy to use and clean, but steam would come out when I put the pulp though a second or third time. Sometimes it would stop. I wish I still had the G.P.. I thought it was hard to clean.
30 Sep 97 - from rawtimes
easy to clean, reliable and durable, leaves alot of moisture in the pulp.
Mon, 10 Nov 1997 - From lyptic
I have used the champion for 5 years now and used to love it. Then I had a chance to try out the green machine for a week... The champion is great for carrots and beets, any hard veggies, and it does softer fruit well. The green machine does celery, spinach, herbs and carrots beautifully, however it certainly lacks when it comes to softer veggies such as tomatoes or even soft apples -- it all comes out as a mush.
27 Nov 97 - From John
I have used The Juiceman II juicer (currently available for $159.99) for over 2 years. It has worked flawlessly and I like the pulp ejection feature over the regular centrifigal style juicer (Omega). I like it much more for juicing than the Champion since it does not heat up the juice, and makes a finer juice, with less pulp particles.
I have owned a Champion (currently available for $179.99) for over 1.5 years, and do not use it for juicing, as I prefer the juice from the Juiceman. I use the champion for homogenizing (making bananna sherbert- just frozen banannas) as well as making nut butters, sometimes I will also use it for grating.
The Commercial/Overseas Champion Juicer (currently available for $229.99) is a more powerful version of the Champion juicer and has a 110/220 volt motor, with 650 watts, has a stainless steel motor shaft runs and at 1,725 RPM).
I am looking forward to getting a Green Power Juicer soon, which I have heard many positive comments. I have also used various dehydrators, from "cheap-o" units from walmart with an adjustable thermostat to excalibur and others.
I prefer the Excalibur 9 tray model (currently available for $159.99) for drying since the temperature is adjustable.
Although the Food PANtrie is (currently available for $47.99) s a great food dryer as well as sprouter and requires no electricty.
These prices are current rock bottom and available from John at Living-Foods Marketplace
30 Dec 1997 - From: Tom
Unpacked a great little juicer from storage that I bought last year.It does wheat grass and all other greens and berries, too. Miracle Wheat Grass Juicer- a hand cranker, with a side spout, made in Czech Republic-imported by Miracle Exclusives;Locust Valley, NY 11560. Costs about $60. , easy to clean, efficient (environmentally-friendly..)I use the large-hole screen and get a nice pulpy juice; I drink about 8 to 12 oz. a day
14 May 1999 - From: Ed
I should preface this by saying this is coming from a VitaMix ONLY user (and I sell them.) I'm into whole foods and prefer the total food juice you can make in the VitaMix, but I believe the Champion will do a better job of making nut butters and tahini. However, I've found that in recipes calling for nut butters or tahini, I can substitute just the nut or seed when I adapt the recipe for the VitaMix and it works out perfectly. The big advantage of the VitaMix, besides its versatility is the convenience factor. It's faster and easier and clean up is a breeze. I swear by it. My only regret is that I didn't get my first one 20 years sooner.
21 Apr 1998 - From: Lisa Walford
Dear Janis: That is a hard joice! I have a Vitamix, have used it with no problems to make bege juice combos with carrots, which take a fair amount of grinding. It does not overheat. However, i have an older model. THe new models with the variable speeds do seem to overheat more easily. The vitamix is very versatile for making essene breads, raw soups, etc. I also have a miracle juicer, and use both almost daily. Juice from the vitamix is less flavorfull (IMO), as the fiber lacks the intensity of the juice flavors, but you do get the health benefits. You might consider spending the money on the vitamix for its versatility, and finding an inexpensive used juicer for simple juice. Walnut Acres has an economy version of their Miracle for $129 + shipping. (800) 433-3998. For reducing calories and/or cholesterol, I recommend retaining the fiber. Otherwise, if you are on a raw food diet, you probably get enough fiber anyway.
Choosing the Right Juicer by James Hurst
The selection of a juice extractor is similar to the selection of a suit of clothes. It should be sized correctly to accommodate your requirements for fresh juice. If it's too large for the kitchen, it will be "stored" and not used. 'If it is too small for the family, it will require frequent cleaning and may not hold up mechanically. Since every juicer has different assembly, cleaning, and operating requirements, it is very important to fit the juicer to the person(s) who will be using it. There is no perfect juicer that will perform every juicing operation with equal quality. Be certain that you evaluate your needs carefully before purchasing an appliance.
Since vegetables and fruits have vastly different physical properties, the juicing method effective for one may be inappropriate for the other. Vegetables, for example, have "tough" cell walls, requiring more aggressive mechanical juicing action or mastication (chewing action) than fruit. Due to their lower acid content, vegetable juices should be consumed within 15 minutes of their preparation, since it has been demonstrated that enzyme activity in juice 30 minutes old is one-half that of freshly made juice. When carrot juice turns from orange to brown the juice has oxidized. This is the strongest reason for purchasing your own juicer and making fresh juice.
Fruits, on the other hand, have softer cell walls and therefore require more gentle extraction methods. While fruits such as apples can be juiced peel and all, citrus fruits have a bitter outer rind, and juice produced from a "whole" orange would be too bitter to drink. It might also contain pesticide residues. One solution is to grate away the outer rind and feed the remains into the juicer (no easy job). The more common method of slicing the fruit in half and then holding it on a revolving auger is easier.
For people interested in juicing both fruits and vegetables with equal quality, the centrifugal juicers such as the Acme or Omega will work quite well. If citrus juice is also desired, choose a model with an auger-type citrus attachment. These juicers are not well suited to doing wheat grass or leafy vegetable. They need stalk-type vegetables or solid type fruits to work properly. If the person who will be using the machine is frail, the Ultramatic or the Juiceman may be the easiest machine to use. Replaceable filter sheets make cleaning both the Omega and Acme much easier. On all three machines, a dull shredder-cutting disk will cause erratic operation. It should be replaced at least every three years.
People who are primarily interested in vegetable juices should seriously consider the Champion Juicer. It was specifically designed to produce its highest quality juice from vegetables. The juice it produces from vegetables Is darker, more concentrated, and contains less entrapped air than juice made with a centrifugal juicer. For this reason the juice has slightly longer shelf life. The Champion Juicer will produce acceptable juice from wheat grass, especially if it is juiced along with other produce such as carrots or apples. By itself, the wheat grass tends to bind around the cutter, and the addition of water may be necessary to keep things flowing. The Champion juicer makes a rather pulpy fruit juice that borders on fruit sauce.
* If pure wheat grass juice is desired, a slow-turning manual-type juicer such as the Miracle, New Image, or Wheateena produces the best quality. There are many motorized varieties of wheatgrass juicers such as the Miracle, New Image, Wheateena to make it easier to juice wheatgrass.
Anamol Laboratories Ltd.(Concord, ON 905-660-1225) conducted a test on the juice volume and mineral content of vegetable juice made with several different juicers. Vegetables used were parsley (64g), kale (392g), chard (270g), sunflower sprouts (160g) and celery (300g). Test results are as follows:
Masticating Masticating 2 step juicer juicer with Hydraulic Green Power press press juicer Juice Yield (ml) 600ml 780ml 780ml 800ml Mineral Content in mcg/ml Boron 0.71 0.8 0.83 0.89 Calcium 382 312 324 560 Chromium 0.005 0.022 ND 0.095 Copper 1.31 1.4 1.37 1.17 Iron 3.21 2.70 2.5 6.58 Lithium 0.096 0.13 0.16 0.18 Magnesium 197 241 257 291 Manganese 2.4 2.34 2.988 3.33 Molybdenum 0.052 0.049 0.037 0.065 Nickel 0.096 0.072 0.055 0.077 Phosphorus 365 300 313 331 Potassium 1847 2258 2302 2236 Silicon ND ND ND 2.05 Sodium 658 759.6 838 948 Storntium 0.76 0.55 0.62 1.08 Vanadium 0.006 0.01 0.01 0.014 Zinc 1.87 2.18 2.29 2.92 ------- Juicer Comparison Chart Nutrient and Enzyme Extraction/Absorption Rate of Green Juice Enzyme Vitamin Content Absorption C Absorption in Spinach Rate (%) in Rate (%) Parsley Raw Vegetable 140mcg 115 mcg Dual Gear Extraction 130 mcg 93% 98 mcg 85% Centrifugal Extraction 36 mcg 26% 18 mcg 16%
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