From: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com (rawlife-digest) To: rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Subject: rawlife-digest V1 #918 Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Sender: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Errors-To: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Precedence: bulk rawlife-digest Sunday, March 10 2002 Volume 01 : Number 918 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 13:42:39 -0500 From: attuner Subject: Re: [rawlife] GreenPower juicer At 05:44 PM 03/08/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I always get some foam as well as juice. I've been told that this is because >the juicer heats up with certain vegetables like spinach, chard and kale >which effects the enzymes as well as being wastful. is the juice actually being heated up? put a thermometer in the juice and check it. i've heard that the foam, if the juice has NOT been heated, is actually the fats in the food. neil > - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 15:03:19 -0500 From: JR Ellis Subject: [rawlife] pimples as i am feeling more like my usual depressed self ... i don't now what to call this condition as manic-depressive is out of vogue i would like to apologize for being so glib about pimples which we all know is the number one problem among adolescent people here are my suggestions for treating pimples and of course don't take any of my advice without first consulting with your tennis coach 1. sun bathing, remember to cover your eyes, start out with small periods and build up to larger maybe starting with 10 minutes before going to an hour or two 2. clay or mud on the face. it is better to dry it under the sun, but not necessary. most muds and clays will work. i have seen great results with red pottery clay. it is cheap. you can spend money and buy exotic clays like green french or black dead sea. bentonite may be the most powerful, but it can be a little painful too. if you can get bentonite, i would suggest diluting it with another clay, like red pottery clay or whatever. You can also eat the bentonite. 3. salt scrubs 4. sauna and steam rooms 5. washing at least daily and after sweating 6. keeping all the skin functioning better with salt scrubs over the whole body. and especially using a medium firm brush to brush the skin. brush away from the heart. don't ask why. its an old wives tale. this is especially great after a mud or clay bath. 7. a raw diet is best. but the absolute worst is chocolate. absolutely no chocolate should be eaten 8. fasting is good. a lemonade fast is a little gimicky, but it can work. you can only fast so often for 10 days or two weeks. but some people like to fast one day a week. i have done that for a while. 9. you can't mention fasting without mentioning colonics. i mean you can, but i don't. its just another elimination method that will keep less strain on the others. good during fasts too. 10. i have had good results for skin healing with vitamin b supplements and calcium supplements 11. drink lots of water. i don't know why i say this. it sounds professional though. When i was growing up, a friend of mine was very upset about pimples. he went for acid peelings and took tetracyline everyday. he still had pimples, but insisted he would have had more. he took tetracyline for almost every teen age day. he became a bad friend. you never know, it could have been the tetracyline. anyway, i bring it up, because many people would go to a dermotologist before a tennis coach. who knows what they will do today. laser surgery, chemotherapy, bloodletting? let me know if he goes. your most humble servant betaman - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 18:26:54 -0800 From: "Hal R. Haley" Subject: Re: [rawlife] pimples JR, > as i am feeling more like my usual depressed self Do you have any amalgam fillings? > glib about pimples My new punk rock band. > which we all know is the number one problem among adolescent people It seems not to near as pervasive as when I was young. I remember terrible cases at my high school, and of course I had my share. I'm guessing it's not a diet improvement thing though. The dermatologists are raking it in by treating the symptoms. I had acne on my back for all of my adult life, until one week after I went ALL raw; gone forever after that. The only time I get anything remotely resembling a pimple now (okay, I'm 44 and the hormones aren't coursing through my arteries, but I'm still going to use the example) is if I overdo the flax seed oil or perhaps pig out on avocados. > here are my suggestions for treating pimples I agree generally with all of them. My short version would be: Water fast for a couple of days. If you're in a hurry, get a colonic or two. Absolutely NO cooked oils, and cut down on the raw ones. Raw food only for a few weeks, with lots of alkaline juices and clean water. > don't take any of my advice without first consulting with your tennis coach I'll run it by Anna Kournikova during my next private lesson. Hal - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 23:19:19 -0500 From: don@health101.org Subject: [rawlife] greenpower, juicers, eyeballs GREENPOWER JUICERS > The gears are steel and I'd be > hard pressed to do any damage to them. There's a plastic collar on some of the gears, it is pinned to the inner shaft. It is this collar that can crack. If you have all steel gears with no plastic, then you have nothing to worry about. There's a second type of spring device that screws into the end of the machine. The spring is weaker then the normal one. this one is designed to be used with soft fruits. It is black instead of white to distinguish it. I don't know how well it works though. But I agree that fruits should be eaten whole and not juiced. The Champion can take any thickness carrot (as long as it fits in the feed tube). But it is not really as good for juicing greens as the GreenPower ot GreenLife. > spinning-basket vs. masticating: masticating > wins hands down Masticating vs. triturating? Triturating wins hands down! > I use my GreenPower juicer to juice green > leafy vegetables. I've noticed that > I always get some foam as well as juice. > I've been told that this is because > the juicer heats up with certain vegetables > like spinach, chard and kale... The speed of machines like the GreenPower are the slowest of all the juicers, and don't heat up the juice. The foaming is a result of the technique of triturating (squeezing the juice out of the material - the "gap" between the to gears is thinner than a human hair). It's the next best thing to a press (like the Norwalk). Also, after the two gears get finished with the food, juice is further extracted from the pulp by squeezing the pulp passed a spring-loaded gizmo at the very tip of the machine. This contributes to the foam. This gizmo is adjustable, and as I said above, there are two different gizmos, one with a stiffer spring than the other. Ah, technology. I've never found the little bit of foam to be of consequence. When comparing carrot juice from a Champion and a GreenPower, the GreenPower's juice stayed fresh longer (due to the lower heat and oxidation). EYEBALL Did I say corona? Sorry! I certainly meant cornea! :) Another disadvantage of contact lenses is the advantage of eye-glasses. You can get a second pair with a weaker prescription. The idea? If you've corrected your vision with technology, the brain has no reason to try and initiate correction... after all, as far as it's concerned, you've got perfect vision, so no need to do anything. If however, you avoid wearing corrective lenses, or wear a weaker lens, the body has reason to seek repair. Besides sounding logical, it has been shown to be valid. So it's easier to do this if one uses glasses rather than contact lenses. Don - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 21:56:33 -0800 From: "Mark Hovila" Subject: Re: [rawlife] greenpower, juicers, eyeballs Don, > The speed of machines like the GreenPower are the slowest of all the juicers, and don't heat up the juice. The foaming is a result of the technique of triturating (squeezing the juice out of the material - the "gap" between the to gears is thinner than a human hair). It's the next best thing to a press (like the Norwalk). Also, after the two gears get finished with the Maybe even better than the Norwalk, which is actually a two-stage machine, a grinder and a press. The grinder operates at high speed, fast enough to noticeably heat up leafy greens and, in the case of wheatgrass, to actually cook it unless you throw ice cubes in the grinder with it. Add to this the fact that the Norwalk costs about 5 times as much and takes 5 times as long to clean up, and it is no contest. Mark - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:49:24 -0500 From: "Tom Tolman" Subject: [rawlife] Questions on anesthesia/thrush This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C1C7FF.B71FFF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all - I have two questions to post: If you were having dental work done, fillings and crown work - how would = you go about dealing with the anesthesia issue if you were all raw? If you had persistent thrush despite having used all conventional otc = and homeopathic remedies what would your next course of action be if = raw? Thanks in advance! - ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C1C7FF.B71FFF80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C1C7FF.B71FFF80-- - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:01:42 -0500 From: DRBERNARR@aol.com (by way of Roberta ) Subject: [rawlife] Avoid using herbs. Herbs can kill you. Lexi Scott wrote "There are specific herbs and herb combinations out there to increase milk supply. I've used them, but I don't remember the names." HERBS-WHY NOT TO USE THEM By Dr. Bernarr, D.C.,D.D. HERBS ARE NOT FOODS. HERBS ARE USED AS DRUGS Anything that goes into the body is digested and used according to body needs. If it can be used, it is a food. The living body will not absorb but reject herbs as toxic. Herbs are not employed as foods but drugs. Herbs, like all drugs, are used to suppress and temporarily relieve symptoms and thereby enervate the body and cause toxemia. Herbs do not remove the causes of disease. The dictionary defines as a drug, "any substance, whether vegetable or mineral, used for medicinal purposes." An herb is defined as a "plant or plant part valued for its medicinal, savory, or aromatic qualities." HERBS DO NOT "CURE" All herbal "cures"have two things in common-they do not remove causes, and they do not constitute normal needs of health and life. No herbal substance foreign to the body can "cure" the body. Something that makes a healthy person sick, cannot make a sick person healthy. Only substances and practices that promote health can enable the return of health. You "cure" ham, not living beings. Many mistakenly believe that certain herbal therapies or treatments can perform specific actions upon the body to effect a "cure". The idea is that some extra-vital herbal agent or influence can, of its own power, restore health to a sick living being. PEOPLE SELF-HEAL IN SPITE OF, NOT BECAUSE OF THE HERBS EATEN Only your inherent intelligence, your God within, can homeostatically heal your body. If a sick person who has taken an herb recovers, he/she self heals, in spite of the herb, not because of the herb. The alleged '"curative" effects of all herbs are the efforts of the body to resist and expel them. Herbs, instead of being digested and being utilized as foods, are expelled as toxic. HERBS, LIKE ALL DRUGS, WILL KILL YOU IF TAKEN IN LARGE DOSES All plants are herbs. There are millions of different plants and herbs on earth. They also contain toxins. The inherent intelligence, the God within, tells us which plants and herbs to eat, by their respective palatability. If something is to be eaten as a food, it can be digested and absorbed and may become part of the body's structure, blood, cells, tissue, nerve, etc., and the body thereby, feels and functions satisfactorily. Unprocessed herbs as grown in the wild, generally are bitter, strong, foul tasting, repulsive and nauseating. If you eat an unpalatable herb, your body rejects it by causing you to vomit, to have diarrhea, to increase urination, to increase sweating, walls it off by the formation of a cyst or tumor or in any other manner speedily expels it. If something to be eaten, is not palatable, it is toxic for the living being. All herbs are fatal when taken in large enough doses. Those unprocessed plants that are palatable, will not kill you, if eaten in large quantities. Wild animals refuse to eat many of the plants growing around them. HERBS CAUSE SYMPTOMATIC DISTRESS Unpalatable herbs when eaten, cause the inherent intelligence, the God within, in an attempt to expel the herbs, to produce pain, dizziness, other physiological discomforts, mental distress, such as hallucinations and delusions and spiritual dysfunction. HERBS ARE NOT USED FOR THEIR NUTRITIONAL VALUES Herbalists do not use herbs for their nutritive qualities. In addition to using herbs as drugs, they also use them as home remedies, cosmetics, gourmet condiments, seasonings, perfumes, household scents, packs, compresses, ointments, insect repellents and antiseptics. HOW I CAN HELP YOU Do not use herbs as therapy. If you want to learn how to eat properly so as to help heal yourself, contact me NOW via the Internet. I have helped many people, world-wide, via the Internet, learn how to eat properly, so that they learn how to help heal themselves and are able to achieve the nutritional results they desire. Dr. Bernarr, D.C., D.D. God Healing, Inc. Natural Hygiene Society, Inc. P.O. Box 1523 Santa Monica California 90406 USA Telephone: 310-396-2914; 310-452-0458 Web Site: http://www.healself.org E-mail: drbernarr@aol.com - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 11:37:13 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: [rawlife] pimples Neil, I agree that there are worse things than contact lens madness, like pierced body parts and tattoos, for example. jr, >6. keeping all the skin functioning better with salt scrubs over the whole >body. and especially using a medium firm brush to brush the skin. brush >away from the heart. don't ask why. its an old wives tale. this is >especially great after a mud or clay bath. I was told to brush towards the intestines. Up the legs, down the arms and upper torso. That's what I do. The old wives must be spinning in their graves. >7. a raw diet is best. but the absolute worst is chocolate. absolutely >no chocolate should be eaten Or dairy. >9. you can't mention fasting without mentioning colonics. i mean you can, >but i don't. its just another elimination method that will keep less strain >on the others. good during fasts too. I never use them, but you're right, it's hard not to mention them. >10. i have had good results for skin healing with vitamin b supplements and >calcium supplements If you want to get into vitamin gimmicks, large doses of vitamin A supplements will also eliminate pimples, but I don't recommend this approach. It doesn't get to root causes. >who knows what they will do today. >laser surgery, chemotherapy, bloodletting? let me know if he goes. I recommend leaving the dermatologists alone. Don't go near them. They charge a lot of money and only suppress symptoms (i.e., suppress the healing process that the pimples represent). Hal, >I had acne on my back for all of my adult life, until one week >after I went ALL raw; gone forever after that. Hey, cool! We ought to have a list of raw miracles posted somewhere... >Water fast for a couple of days. If you're in a hurry, get a colonic or two. >Absolutely NO cooked oils, and cut down on the raw ones. >Raw food only for a few weeks, with lots of alkaline juices and clean water. All good stuff, but I still think you have to remove the cause, or they will come back. My best guess from way over here long distance is milk products, especially cheese. Don, >Another disadvantage of contact lenses is the advantage >of eye-glasses. You can get a second pair with a weaker prescription I see no reason you can't do the same with contacts. >Besides sounding logical, it has been shown to be valid. So >it's easier to do this if one uses glasses rather than contact lenses. Why? Tom, (except I know you aren't Tom, but I forget who you are -- Katie?) >If you were having dental work done, fillings and crown >work - how would you go about dealing with the >anesthesia issue if you were all raw? For the last 8 years or so, I have had all filling and crown work done without anesthetics. They have been only replacements since I have had no new cavities. Pain hurts less when you are all raw because there is little or no accompanying inflammation. That means the pain stops within seconds of the dentist's drill stopping. Anesthetics are worse because they can take hours to wear off, but as a raw fooder, you will find they wear off faster. If you take them for dental work, you may find that they wear off in mid-procedure and have to be repeated with a booster. I suggest avoiding them altogether. Another advantage of having no anesthetics (besides not poisoning yourself) is that the dentists empathize with your pain and are more careful and considerate of your mouth than they would be if you were anesthetized. The drilling creates a lot of heat on the tooth, so they will pulse it (10 seconds or so at a time). I find it also helps to be psychologically prepared. Try to find out as much as your dentist will tell you about what he's going to do and how long it will last. Try to visualize it as it is happening. The best ones talk you through what they are doing as they do it and give you progress reports (1/4 done, 1/2 done, only a little more...). It's easier to tolerate pain if you know it's going to have a finite duration. Finally, the worst pain always seems to be not from the drill, but from the air they blow in the hole to dry it and from just sitting there with the hole exposed to the air. If they are kind, they will stuff the hole with cotton while they are waiting for it to dry completely and/or preparing their filling materials. If they don't, ask. >If you had persistent thrush despite having used all conventional >otc and homeopathic remedies what would your next course of action be if raw? I would fast for a couple weeks. I would also wonder if there might be some raw dairy in my diet that I could get rid of. Bob Avery ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:30:23 -0500 From: JR Ellis Subject: Re: [rawlife] pimples At 11:37 AM 3/10/02 -0500, bob wrote: >I was told to brush towards the intestines. Up the legs, down the arms >and upper torso. That's what I do. the rational for away from the heart, is to go how the arteries go but it works for me cause thats how the hair grows > >If you were having dental work done, fillings and crown > >work - how would you go about dealing with the > >anesthesia issue if you were all raw? i try to breath half nitrous oxide and half oxygen it wears off immediately i still experience the pain, but not in a bad way and its makes going to the dentist fun i try not to take novacain, or at least very very little if you can have your root canals drilled without any painkillers then you are my hero betaman hal - i had all my amalgam fillings removed a while away but i still left in the posts for my root canals and crowns i just didn't have the heart to pull the teeth it seems so permanent - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:23:51 -0800 From: "Hal R. Haley" Subject: Re: [rawlife] pimples Bob, > Pain hurts less when you are all raw because there is little or no > accompanying inflammation. That means the pain stops within seconds of the > dentist's drill stopping. I'll vouch for this, having just had some work done. > Anesthetics are worse because they can take hours to wear off, but as a raw > fooder, you will find they wear off faster. Again my experience. I must have had novacain (actually some new "caine") in six or seven places, and my whole left side was completely numb, yet about an hour afterward I was almost back to normal.. > If you take them for dental work, you may find that they wear off in > mid-procedure and have to be repeated with a booster. This happened to me when I went back to have the temporaries replaced! > I suggest avoiding them altogether. I'm not so sure; I had a couple of differing experiences. > Another advantage of having no anesthetics (besides not poisoning yourself) > is that the dentists empathize with your pain Keen observation; it happened to me last week when I went in to have some rough spots ground down. No novacaine, and he was extremely careful, and asked me about every ten seconds how I was doing. > and are more careful and considerate of your mouth than they would be if > you were anesthetized. The drilling creates a lot of heat on the tooth, so > they will pulse it (10 seconds or so at a time). Exactly what happened. > Finally, the worst pain always seems to be not from the drill, but from the > air they blow in the hole to dry it BINGO! Also, the assistant kept putting the suction tube right next to my tooth, and the air currents from that made me pull it out a couple of times. Another thing that was very painful to me was the actual placing of the composite resin, which seemed to be heated and just about killed me. They cure it very quickly with infrared. Because it's less expensive to do a bunch at once, I'm unlikely to forego the painkillers when I go back; it's just too much to endure to have five or six fillings replaced at once. For this wimp, anyway. Hal - -- rawlife - http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ End of rawlife-digest V1 #918 ***************************** --- ******************* END OF POST ****************************** RAWLIFE-DIGEST - faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html