From: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com (rawlife-digest) To: rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Subject: rawlife-digest V1 #428 Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Sender: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Errors-To: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Precedence: bulk rawlife-digest Friday, December 1 2000 Volume 01 : Number 428 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:08:46 -0800 From: "HELEN HECKER" Subject: [rawlife] lithium/hospitals/etc Bob-- Deprakote is an anti-convulsive that they are probably giving your dad to counter attack the seizures cause by the Zyprex. Lithium would be 'safer' I would think--if there is such a thing. ( Lithium is found in drinking water--it is a trace element--don't know off-hand of any other source--there may be) Can you get another opinion from a more nutritional-oriented psychiatrist? The gene was found for bi-polar disorder in the early '70's. Certainly a raw diet would be worth a try if he could do it (and sounds like he won't)--but what if that didn't 'cure' it? Are you saying that genes are not a factor when it comes to diet? That raw food is a cure-all? Have we taken a poll to see how many of our raw food friends are disease-free? Always food for thought of course. Hospitals-Stuffed chairs are loaded with organisms. The infections patients acquire in hospitals are in most cases probably from the bed linens. Many hospitals are still using chlorine bleach instead of Citricidal (grapefruit seed extract). CB does not kill girardia and other parasites. If you are using it in your sinks to kill organisms--it doesn't kill giardia (I picked up giardia last year at a raw food potluck). I think handwashing techniques should be taught to every raw food group .I have seen people wash their hands by rinsing them under the faucet. Friction is required, etc. I believe cabbage is the only vegetable that won't harbor parasites. I eat alot of it. Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome. I am so skinny that I am constantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are constantly aggravated by hard surfaces. Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs etc. Anybody else have this problem? How did you get rid of it. The doctors in the past told me IBUPROFEN-- HA! and moist heat--which definitely aggravates it--can't sit in hard hot tubs. ice packs seem to help some. Helen - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:37:50 -0800 From: "Mark Hovila" Subject: Re: [rawlife] lithium/hospitals/etc Helen, > I think handwashing techniques should be taught to every raw food group .I > have seen people wash their hands by rinsing them under the faucet. > Friction is required, etc. You've actually seen this with your own eyes? What a scandal! Seriously, that's pretty much all I do, unless I just emptied my bowels or I've got visible dirt or grease on my hands. Do you really think these bugs are our enemies? Or is it that we give them a nice environment to thrive in with our bad eating habits? > Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome. I am so skinny that I am > constantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are > constantly aggravated by hard surfaces. Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs > etc. Anybody else have this problem? How did you get rid of it. The > doctors in the past told me IBUPROFEN-- HA! and moist heat--which > definitely aggravates it--can't sit in hard hot tubs. ice packs seem to help > some. Try raising yourself up on your tiptoes and tightening your legs and glutes (your whole body, actually, below the waist) as hard as you can for a second, then release and come back down. Do it 30 times, then do it again with feet angled outward at 45 degrees, then again with feet pigeontoed, in 45 degrees. After 90 of these (or however many you can manage) you will have a great lower body workout. It may or may not thicken up your butt enough to end the problem, but at the very least, in a few weeks you'll have a great looking butt and legs! Mark - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:56:50 -0500 From: Marie T Betz Subject: [rawlife] hospitals/etc Helen said: "Hospitals-Stuffed chairs are loaded with organisms. The infections patients acquire in hospitals are in most cases probably from the bed linens. Many hospitals are still using chlorine bleach instead of Citricidal (grapefruit......" Back in 1964 I wanted to have my 7th child at home, but was unable to contact our family doctor. They ended up taking me, by ambulance, into another hospital. When my ex told our doctor I wanted to have the baby at home, he said, "What's wrong with that? Home is the best place to have a baby, providing your home is fit to live in." He added: "You'd be amazed at how many newborn infants have staff infection." P.S. I did manage to deliver two at home after that. Another time we had to call the doctor for my sick daughter. She had a very high fever, and didn't seem to be improving. The doctor pulled a syringe from his bag and said, "I can give her this needle and in 3 days she will be better." Then he put the syringe back in his bag and pulled out a bottle of pills, and said, "Or...I can give her a few of these pills and in 3 days she will be better." I was happy, because I didn't like my kids getting injections. Then he threw the bottle of pills back into his satchel and said, "Or...I can do NOTHING and in 3 days she will be better." He explained that unless he DOES something, people don't think he's earning his keep. 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(619) 596-7979 (800) 205-2350 The World's Premier Source of Raw/Living Food Lifestyle Products Main Website: http://www.rawfood.com Online Superstore: http://www.rawfood.com/cgi-bin/order/index.cgi Email: nature@rawfood.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:26:12 -0800 From: "Prelest1" Subject: Re: [rawlife] MS Drugs Dear Heide, Thank you for your message, I really love this board and all the great people on it. I wish more healthcare professionals would at least be open to raw foods. Allopathy does not have all the answers and I look forward to more acceptance and integration with natural modalities. Warmly, Alexei Romanov M.D.(prelest1@yahoo.com) - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:00:21 -0800 From: "Prelest1" Subject: Re: [rawlife] shampoo Dear Jeannie, I recomend "Aubrey Organics" line of shampoo's and conditioners. They are available in most healthfood stores and have no chemicals. I use the Blue Camomile shampoo and the GPB conditioner. I find they work great! Aubrey has a toll free number for info and it is 1-800)Aubrey H. I like Dr. Bronner's Castile as well but I find it can be very drying to my hair. I hope this may be of some help. Warmly, Alexei (prelest1@yahoo.com) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 18:20:18 -0500 From: attuner Subject: Re: [rawlife] shampoo At 02:00 PM 12/01/2000 -0800, you wrote: > I recomend "Aubrey Organics" line of shampoo's and conditioners. i enthusiastically second this. aubrey J.A.Y. (for jojoba, aloe, yucca) shampoo is what i use on my hair. i always dilute 50-50 with water. this makes this natural shampoo less drying. it should be done with any shampoo, especially the chemical ones. bronner's liquid soap is on the rest of my body, and that is definitely diluted as per its labels instructions. i never use bronner's on my hair becos it is too drying even when diluted. neil - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:32:52 -0700 From: "Carol G" Subject: [rawlife] itchy scalp -- article Hi all and Marie, Found a page I clipped out some time ago answering my own concern about itchy scalp and guess what the answer is: sesame oil: relieves itchy, flakyu scap and moisturizes and conditions hair.... recommended brand: Maharishi Ayurved Herbal Warm Oil Treatmetn... Book name: Herbal Beauty and Herbal Book by Hilary Boddie and Rohstoff[Fibel Ingredients Dictgionary (Annemarie Borlind).... urdock root....recommended for dry hair... aloe vera ..... Marie, let me know that you read this please. Hugs to you all, Carol G. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 03:20:06 From: "Dallas McMillan" Subject: Re: [rawlife] shampoo

I rarely if ever shampoo my hair.  I give it a good rinse in the shower and occasionally oil.  It looks and feels great.  I hate the fluffiness and dryness that results from most shampoos (even expensive "Natural" ones)


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Re: Skin and hair.

One of the best practices I have found is an all over oiling!

Use olive or unrefined sesame (coconut is recommended for hair, but is very thick).  I Do it with clean skin, but best not immediteley after bathing.  I start on my trunk with a handful and rub in well: enough to move the skin and get some warmth going.  I work all around my body, rubbing in till the skin is warm but not greasy.  I use less oil on my face.  Avoid getting it in your eyes: yeow.  I leave my hair till last, and just rub my slightly oily hands through it till they are fairly oil-free.  If you apply a lot of oil, it is very greasy, but I find a little gives it heaps of body and character, and prevents dryness.

This is particularly good in winter or the city, as "insulation", or for dry skin.  It helps prevent overeating especially of fats.


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Re: Skin and hair.

One of the best practices I have found is an all over oiling!

Use olive or unrefined sesame (coconut is recommended for hair, but is very thick).  I Do it with clean skin, but best not immediteley after bathing.  I start on my trunk with a handful and rub in well: enough to move the skin and get some warmth going.  I work all around my body, rubbing in till the skin is warm but not greasy.  I use less oil on my face.  Avoid getting it in your eyes: yeow.  I leave my hair till last, and just rub my slightly oily hands through it till they are fairly oil-free.  If you apply a lot of oil, it is very greasy, but I find a little gives it heaps of body and character, and prevents dryness.

This is particularly good in winter or the city, as "insulation", or for dry skin.  It helps prevent overeating especially of fats.


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Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome.  I am so skinny that I amconstantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are constantly aggravated by hard surfaces.  Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs etc.  Anybody else have this problem?  How did you get rid of it.  The doctors in the past told me IBUPROFEN-- HA!  and moist heat--which definitely aggravates it--can't sit in hard hot tubs. ice packs seem to help some.

I had this problem a year or so ago, when I was undereating, occasionally binging, and doing much exercise, yoga and work.  I feel it represents us not really being happy to sit down: could you be in the wrong environment.  I feel sure this would not happen to use if we are eating well, eating enough, and look after ourselves.  I think bike riding probably made it worse, as did binging on sugar and fats (I really notice that toxicity or excess sugar exacerbate pain sensitivity and prevent healthy body building).

I know this doesn't provide a "remedy" but perhaps it will help.


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Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome.  I am so skinny that I amconstantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are constantly aggravated by hard surfaces.  Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs etc.  Anybody else have this problem?  How did you get rid of it.  The doctors in the past told me IBUPROFEN-- HA!  and moist heat--which definitely aggravates it--can't sit in hard hot tubs. ice packs seem to help some.

I had this problem a year or so ago, when I was undereating, occasionally binging, and doing much exercise, yoga and work.  I feel it represents us not really being happy to sit down: could you be in the wrong environment.  I feel sure this would not happen to use if we are eating well, eating enough, and look after ourselves.  I think bike riding probably made it worse, as did binging on sugar and fats (I really notice that toxicity or excess sugar exacerbate pain sensitivity and prevent healthy body building).

I know this doesn't provide a "remedy" but perhaps it will help.


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- ------=_NextPart_000_2277_4f9f_1c2c-- - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:41:19 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: [rawlife] lithium/hospitals/etc Helen, >Lithium is found in drinking >water--it is a trace element--don't know off-hand of any other source It's in food too. The lithium in water would be in inorganic form and not very useful. >Can you get another opinion from a more nutritional-oriented psychiatrist? Is there such a thing? Not sure where I would look, but it's an interesting idea. >The gene was found for bi-polar disorder in the early '70's. There's probably more than one gene involved; there usually is. Anyway, genetics is barking up the wrong tree. There's no way of changing your genes. If he lived 77 years with a defective gene and no symptoms of manic-depression, then he should be able to live the rest of his life without them too -- if he removes the environmental/emotional/psychological causes. >Certainly a raw diet would be worth a try if he could do it (and sounds like >he won't)--but what if that didn't 'cure' it? Are you saying that genes are >not a factor when it comes to diet? That raw food is a cure-all? I'm saying that the human body is a self-healing organism and that healing occurs when causes of disease are removed. Cooked food is a cause of disease, but it's not the only cause, therefore a raw diet may or may not be sufficient in his case. As I pointed out, Dr. VanWinkle (Rotunno), who IS on a raw food diet, felt that the right kind of psychotherapy was essential in her case in addition to the raw diet. Read her article to see why this comes under the heading of "removing causes." >Have we taken a poll to see how many of our raw food friends are disease-free? What would that prove? Have they been raw since birth or only the last 3 months? Have they been subjected to air pollution, water pollution, and/or other environmental poisons? Are they victims of spousal abuse? Let me make myself clear -- raw food doesn't cure ANYTHING. It just eliminates one of the causes of disease (cooking). There are many others. Each case is different, so you have to play detective to figure out what causes might contributing in any given instance. And causes are usually multiple, not singular, so changing just one thing or a few things might not be enough. >I think handwashing techniques should be taught to every raw food group .I >have seen people wash their hands by rinsing them under the faucet. >Friction is required, etc. I only wash my hands when they have visible crud on them. >I believe cabbage is the only vegetable that won't harbor parasites. I eat >alot of it. I don't worry about germs or other parasites. I think they are a natural part of the world and nothing to be afraid of. They are Nature's janitors, the cleanup crew. If you make a mess of your body, they come along and try to clean up the mess. Then they get blamed for initiating this uncomfortable cleanup process when the mess wasn't their fault at all -- they're just trying to doing their job. If you always shoot them down with antibiotics and prevent the cleanup from completing, then you're just opening yourself up to bigger trouble down the road, such as cancer. >Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome. I am so skinny that I am >constantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are >constantly aggravated by hard surfaces. Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs >etc. Anybody else have this problem? After a long fast, yes, I begin to notice the bones under my gluteus minimus. >How did you get rid of it. Just regained the lost weight. >The doctors in the past told me IBUPROFEN-- HA! and moist heat--which >definitely aggravates it--can't sit in hard hot tubs. ice packs seem to help some. They have a drug for everything, don't they? Mark, >You've actually seen this with your own eyes? What a scandal! Seriously, >that's pretty much all I do, unless I just emptied my bowels or I've got >visible dirt or grease on my hands. I just rinse quickly with water after bowel-making. I don't use soap unless I have something really greasy or yucky on me that scrubbing with water won't get off. >After 90 of these (or however many you can manage) you will >have a great lower body workout. Good idea! Marie, >Then he threw the bottle of pills back into his satchel and said, "Or...I >can do NOTHING and in 3 days she will be better." Too bad they ALL aren't this honest or knowledgeable. >This doctor, by the way, did NOT believe in the AMA. Did they eventually find out and defrock him? Alexei, >Allopathy does not have all the answers and I look forward to more >acceptance and integration with natural modalities. Do they have any? Neil, >i enthusiastically second this. aubrey J.A.Y. (for jojoba, aloe, yucca) >shampoo is what i use on my hair. i always dilute 50-50 with water. I just use plain water. Works for me. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:10:47 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: [rawlife] shampoo This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_5cb6.4441.4ddd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dallas, >I rarely if ever shampoo my hair. I give it a good rinse in the shower and occasionally oil. It looks >and feels great. I hate the fluffiness and dryness that results from most shampoos (even expensive >"Natural" ones) I think we may be too "radical" for Helen. Next she'll be cautioning us about head lice, just you wait. I started a few years back just shampooing less often, once a week, once every two weeks. Finally, when it was about once/month and nothing bad was happening, I figured what the heck, why shampoo at all? So I stopped. Don't ask me how often I bathe. I don't want Helen to know. I'll lose whatever credibility I have left. This might not work in a heavily polluted city. I remember going to college in NYC, and greasy soot particles from Con Ed would blacken a windowsill in one day if you left the window open. My hair was always full of grease that I wasn't putting there! I had to shampoo all the time, but at least I no longer had to buy greasy kid stuff for my hair! >One of the best practices I have found is an all over oiling! Now that I have no objection to, though I don't do that either. Might not be a bad idea, though. >This is particularly good in winter or the city, as "insulation", or for dry skin. It helps prevent >overeating especially of fats. VERY interesting -- thanks. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) - ----__JNP_000_5cb6.4441.4ddd Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dallas,
 
>I rarely if ever shampoo my hair.  I give it a good rinse in = the=20 shower and occasionally oil.  It looks >and feels great.  I = hate=20 the fluffiness and dryness that results from most shampoos (even expensive= =20 >"Natural" ones)
 
I think we may be too "radical" for Helen.  Next she'll be = cautioning=20 us about head lice, just you wait.
 
I started a few years back just shampooing less often, once a week, = once=20 every two weeks.  Finally, when it was about once/month and nothing = bad was=20 happening, I figured what the heck, why shampoo at all?  So I=20 stopped.  Don't ask me how often I bathe.  I don't want = Helen to=20 know.  I'll lose whatever credibility I have left.
 
This might not work in a heavily polluted city.  I remember going= to=20 college in NYC, and greasy soot particles from Con Ed would blacken a = windowsill=20 in one day if you left the window open.  My hair was always full of = grease=20 that I wasn't putting there!  I had to shampoo all the time, but at = least I=20 no longer had to buy greasy kid stuff for my hair!
 
>One of the best practices I have found is an all over oiling!
 
Now that I have no objection to, though I don't do that either.  = Might=20 not be a bad idea, though.

>This is particularly good in winter or the city, as "insulation", or= for=20 dry skin.  It helps prevent >overeating especially of fats.

VERY interesting -- thanks.
 
Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com)
- ----__JNP_000_5cb6.4441.4ddd-- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:59:15 -0800 From: "Shari V" Subject: RE: [rawlife] sore, skinny body My Outlook is not liking the attachments that are coming from Dallas. Is anyone else experiencing any problems? I had a crash last week and things are still on the mend, but for some reason I get the “…committed a fatal error…” you know the one with the stop sign. Anyway, are there attachments or is that something he needs to turn off at his end? S - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:54:27 -0800 From: "HELEN HECKER" Subject: [rawlife] butt/shampoo/etc Mark-- Yes I have seen poor handwashing techniques with my own eyes. I don't mind soil organisms--what I do mind is e. coli and giardia. Apparently those 2 don't bother you. I don't want to test myself. I got giardia at a raw food potluck last April, along with other raw fooders. E. coli can live on the hands through 5 handwashings. It really is not very funny for those who've come in contact with either organism. I know many are not educated. Think about it. Hey Mark I appreciate the butt exercises. I will try them-- I hadn't thought about muscle protection before. My legs are very well developed from playing tennis 4 x a week--and from standing on my tiptoes juicing a quart of carrot juice every day. Maybe not my butt. Marie-- are you sure you meant staff infection? or staph infection!!!! Probably both are correct!!!! Re: Aubrey-- I think Aubrey's JAY is very popular. Some of Aubrey's has St John's Wort in it which I don't want to use on my body. Dallas: When you oil up with olive oil does it blkock your pore-- cause pimple-like protusions? Also for the butt proble--yes I take very good care of myself--live a fairly stress-free lifestyle , I eat plenty--all raw--so no sugar etc. I am certain my problem started sitting on hard surfaces. Rawk and Roll!! Helen R.N. WA - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:03:50 EST From: PFPDancer@aol.com Subject: Re: [rawlife] lithium/hospitals/etc I thought Depakote was an anti-psychotic. It was ordered for my sister, who is also bi-ploar, and she had no seizures or other medicine that caused seizures. My sister stayed with me for a while last spring. At the time she was on no medication, but she did follow the raw diet with me. When she returned home, everyone noticed how calm and reasonable she was. My brother commented that "there must be something to this nutrition". Of course, my sister did not stay the course. Just thought I would share. Helen, it may be worthwhile to do a little exercise like a stair master or some weight resistance. It might put some muscle tissue around the hip joints, and exercise does oil the joints a bit. Priscilla - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:19:43 -0500 From: Marie T Betz Subject: [rawlife] Shampoo Someone asked about shampoo. A while back someone recommended Aubrey's Organic Shampoo. I got the Organic Chamomile shampoo and like it very much. In fact, I filled our soap dispenser with it diluted (half shampoo and half water) and it really feels good on the face, hands and arms. But don't get it in the eyes if yours are as sensitive as mine. Leaves them soft, not dry like other soaps do. I highly recommend it. Marie Betz (NJ) - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:43:06 -0700 From: Jo Yoshida Subject: Re: [rawlife] sore, skinny body Here's a challenge I am trying to overcome. I am so skinny that I amconstantly battling soft tissue injuries on my butt-joints which are constantly aggravated by hard surfaces. Sitting in a bathtub--hard chairs etc. Anybody else have this problem? How did you get rid of it. Hi Daniel - would you mind tell us (or me privately) what your height and weight are? percent body fat? small/medium/large bone structure? aside from ashtanga yoga, do you weight train as well? have you considered cutting back on your aerobic workouts and focus more on brief high intensity training sessions with longer rest intervals? Cheers, Jo - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 23:44:49 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: [rawlife] butt/shampoo/etc Helen, >I don't mind soil organisms--what I do mind is e. coli and giardia. Apparently >those 2 don't bother you. I don't want to test myself. I got giardia at a >raw food potluck last April, along with other raw fooders. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but you have E. coli in your body right this minute. Everyone does. As for giardia, I did have a bad case of it years ago in my cooked-eating days, which (not knowing any better) I resorted to antibiotics to eradicate. I think cheese-eating was a big cause (in retrospect). Since going raw 8 years ago, no recurrences (of either giardia OR antibiotics). >It really is not very funny for those >who've come in contact with either organism. I've been in contact with both. Don't worry about either one. Though I may or may not have been in contact with the so-called mutant O:127H (or whatever it's called) strain of E. coli; I wouldn't know. I'm not afraid of it though. I doubt it would bother me if I did encounter it. Same with the giardia. That part of my life is history. >I know many are not educated Like about 99.99% ! (:-) >live a fairly stress-free lifestyle Now THAT's the way to stay disease-free in a nutshell. Stress-free. That includes food stress (cooked), emotional stress (bad relationships), financial stress, and so on. Stress is what kills us for sure. We need to always be looking for ways to reduce it. Priscilla, >I thought Depakote was an anti-psychotic. It was ordered for my sister, who >is also bi-ploar, and she had no seizures or other medicine that caused >seizures. Um, if I remember the psychiatrist's mumbo-jumbo, the Zyprexa was the "anti-psychotic," and the Depakote was the "mood stabilizer." But they both spell "poison." Helen's probably right that they prescribe it to modify some of the effects of the other drug. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html ------------------------------ End of rawlife-digest V1 #428 ***************************** --- ******************* END OF POST ****************************** RAWLIFE-DIGEST - faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html