Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com)
- ----__JNP_000_4765.7686.03a2-- ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:22:01 EST From: DadWorld@aol.com Subject: [rawlife] Apple pie recipe? I have been trying to find a particular recipe, I believe from Rita Romano's book, which I seem to have misplaced. This is what I remember: peel and cut up some apples soak overnight with raisins and cinamon in lemon juice put in pie crust Does anyone have the details (I don't need the crust specifically)? I also found it was too sour and more like a salad than pie, so I found mixing in ripe bananas helps the taste and texture. Jim "Every day, computers are making people easier to use" "Corporations are on a collision course with democracy, and democracy is losing" - Ralph Nader for President Volunteer Sign-up Page - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:51:40 -0800 From: "HELEN HECKER" Subject: Re: [rawlife] Re: hi hello everyone-- Anyone interested in selling a used Vita-mix, Green Life Juicer, and/or Champion Juicer? If so, e-mail me at twinpeak@pacifier.com Helen - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:35:02 -0500 From: penpal555@juno.com Subject: Re: [rawlife] Mineral Balance Thanks, Bob Avery, for that info on minerals. Makes sense. I always thought it was a joke when these doctors decide exactly how much of each Vitamin a person needs in order to "stay healthy." I think God must be laughing at us. We've discovered Vitamin A, B vitamins, C, D, E, etc. But God is probably saying "What about the other 10 thousand vitamins and minerals I put in living food. Why haven't you discovered all of them?" I have a list two pages long of drugs that I have taken in the past, for heart, high-blood pressure, neuropathy, hiatal hernia, etc., etc. From time to time they discover that many of these drugs are harmful. Just about a week ago I read where they are starting a class action suit against the company that produces Propulsid....another one that I was on. There are at least six others I was on that they now warn could cause liver problems or kidney problems. Another thing gets me.....they advertise something to stop a drippy nose, but warn it could cause constipation, diarrhea, kidney failure, high blood pressure, heart palpitations and a few other things. Before you know it they will be prescribing one drug for a right nostril drip, and yet another one for a left nostril drip. Anything to make money. Best regards, Marie Betz - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:43:13 -0500 From: penpal555@juno.com Subject: Re: [rawlife] Alfalfa Sprouts & Shampoo Subject: Re: [rawlife] Alfalfa Sprouts Bob Avery, What you said makes a lot of sense. Apple seeds contain a poison, so that birds and animals don't eat them before they propagate. Thanks, Bob. - -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [rawlife] Alfalfa sprouts & Shampoo Hi, Mark, Thanks for that info on the sprout spray. I'm highly allergic to mold, and that's probably why I had such a bad reaction. That's one food I'll stay away from. - -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [rawlife] Shampoo Thanks, Hal, for that additional info on natural shampoo. When I was younger, and able to walk, I used to love to walk in the rain. The rainwater always left my hair so soft. Guess my husband will have to catch rainwater in buckets for me to enjoy that again. Will let you know what I think of it tomorrow. Marie Betz - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:14:41 -0800 From: "Shari V" Subject: [rawlife] apple seeds, apple pie, pumpkin pie, stove Hmmm, I eat the whole apple. Somewhere in Dr. Bernard Jensen's new book, "Come Alive" he makes a comment about eating the entire apple. Claims that what's in the seeds is good for you. I do believe it's arsenic or something that resembles laetrile. Jensen says it's good for your colon and the critters that try to live there. I wouldn't juice the entire apple as it takes too many apples for a glass of juice, but when eating an apple by hand (or is it mouth?) I eat the core and all. The only recipe I can find in Rita Romano's book is for Baked Apples with currants, walnuts & oranges. While we're on the subject, I'm looking for a raw pumpkin pie recipe that you have actually tried and liked. We are going for the 100% raw Thanksgiving here and I need some traditional things for the family. Of course there will only be the immediate family (the ones that live here) as the rest of the fam thinks we've totally lost it. Newsflash! Finally sold my stove! It's been sitting by the front door since July. A woman actually came and paid money for it and took it away. We are a truly stoveless household!! Now if I can wrestle the toaster and hotplate away from the teenagers...... Shari - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:32:17 EST From: Rawfoods@aol.com Subject: Re: [rawlife] Entry to Guestbook - --part1_cb.b0a4c96.273b58a1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/7/00 10:08:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, mommah@ix.netcom.com writes: > I would like to know how to fix raw collard greens for the holidays. Could > you please inform > me how it is done, or how to find a recipe for someone who has done > it. Thanks > I have 2 suggestions: > 1. roll up several large leaves at a time and slice thinly (chiffonade) or > roll and put through a food processor slicer-anyhow, make into thin long > ribbons and proceed with salad dressing and other veggies of choice 2. marinate large leaves overnight in oil, lemon, nama shoyu or sea salt and any other spices/herbs you like-next day use as rollups, or in salad Yours in Good Health Nomi Shannon The Raw Gourmet www.rawgourmet.com rawgourmet@aol.com All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ...Schopenhauer - --part1_cb.b0a4c96.273b58a1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/7/00 10:08:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
mommah@ix.netcom.com writes:

I would like to know how to fix raw collard greens for the holidays. Could
you please inform
me how it is done, or how to find a recipe for someone who has done
it. Thanks
I have 2 suggestions:
1. roll up several large leaves at a time and slice thinly (chiffonade) or
roll and put through a food processor slicer-anyhow, make into thin long
ribbons and proceed with salad dressing and other veggies of choice

2. marinate large leaves overnight in oil, lemon, nama shoyu or sea salt and
any other spices/herbs you like-next day use as rollups, or in salad

Yours in Good Health
Nomi Shannon
The Raw Gourmet
www.rawgourmet.com
rawgourmet@aol.com
All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
...Schopenhauer - --part1_cb.b0a4c96.273b58a1_boundary-- - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 20:42:17 EST From: Rawfoods@aol.com Subject: Re: [rawlife] apple seeds, apple pie, pumpkin pie, stove - --part1_12.49fe702.273b5af9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/8/00 5:11:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, shavig@premier1.net writes: > > While we're on the subject, I'm looking for a raw pumpkin pie recipe that > you have actually tried and liked. We are going for the 100% raw > Thanksgiving here and I need some traditional things for the family. Of > course there will only be the immediate family (the ones that live here) as > why not use the sweet potatoe pie recipe in my book? (Yam actually) I am sure you could successfully substitute pumpkin. I am having Thanksgiivng with my family this year-the sister who's husband is a scientist and loves to "attack me" I will bring my raw applesauce pie and my yam pie-AND I'M NOT TELLING THEM THEY ARE RAW UNTIL THEY HAVE LICKED THEIR SPOONS AND ASKED FOR SECONDS. Maybe I will whip up a little cashew or pine nut or macadamia topping too. and that' s what I';ll eat! Yours in Good Health Nomi Shannon The Raw Gourmet www.rawgourmet.com rawgourmet@aol.com All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ...Schopenhauer - --part1_12.49fe702.273b5af9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/8/00 5:11:53 PM Pacific Standard Time,
shavig@premier1.net writes:

While we're on the subject, I'm looking for a raw pumpkin pie recipe that
you have actually tried and liked. We are going for the 100% raw
Thanksgiving here and I need some traditional things for the family. Of
course there will only be the immediate family (the ones that live here) as
the rest of the fam thinks we've totally

why not use the sweet potatoe pie recipe in my book? (Yam actually) I am sure
you could successfully substitute pumpkin. I am having Thanksgiivng with my
family this year-the sister who's husband is a scientist and loves to "attack
me" I will bring my raw applesauce pie and my yam pie-AND I'M NOT TELLING
THEM THEY ARE RAW UNTIL THEY HAVE LICKED THEIR SPOONS AND ASKED FOR SECONDS.
Maybe I will whip up a little cashew or pine nut or macadamia topping too.
and that' s what I';ll eat!

Yours in Good Health
Nomi Shannon
The Raw Gourmet
www.rawgourmet.com
rawgourmet@aol.com
All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
...Schopenhauer - --part1_12.49fe702.273b5af9_boundary-- - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:33:11 -0700 From: "Carol G" Subject: [rawlife] Uncle Harry's web address - please Shari and All, Could you please share Uncle Harry's address for the toothpowder, the liquid soap, and just whatever other goodies he has. Thanks. Carol G. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:40:22 -0700 From: "Carol G" Subject: [rawlife] dog update - raw at last HI all, Remember Molly, our pound dog. we got end of July when she was 13 months think? Well, it's been several weeks, at least 4-5, that she's now a raw dog and loving it. She gets her 2 hugh legs for AM, during day not excited about eating, but has gotten to love almonds, dinner 6 ou. of turkey or hamburger meat, lots of raw carrots with veggies that we are having in evening and always raw garlic. I do add most evenings nutritional yeast, kelp, lechithin, olive oil, water to make it mushy. This 40 pound dog or was it 45 is doing awesome. Oh, yes she gets barley green powder we market from AIM as well. She's loaded with energy and is a very fast runner. She's very happy dog and we are blessed having her. Thanks Shari and others for encouraging me, helping me along the way of knowing just what to feed her. It's working now and always willing to learn more. I will start adding Vit E to her diet as well. Haven't done the bone meal either. Not sure about that. Carol G. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 19:23:10 -0800 From: "Shari V" Subject: [rawlife] Unk Harry, stove hole, runners Uncle Harry's http://www.uncleharrys.com/ Bob - my stove was replaced with counter top. I have an island where a cook top can go if we ever feel the urge to sell the house. I think a stove would be a selling point! Don't know where they would put an oven. Oh well. I almost didn't want to sell it as some folks said it makes a great place to sprout. But hey, I have all this cupboard space that used to be filled with canned, dried, and otherwise dead food. I am using a large cabinet for my sprouting nursery. Well, Jacques didn't do as well as HE thought he should, but he still came in 66. He wanted to be in the 50's and coach said he would be lucky to be in the 60's. After it is all said and done we have the 300th fastest high school boy in the entire state. That is his finish for all the sizes of schools; A, B, AB, 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A and a couple 5As. Over 650 kids. Not bad for a skinny vegan/raw kid. He had quite a blow though, his favorite camp coach (not his school coach, thank goodness) said he would never recruit a vegetarian because they are not healthy enough. This was an overall statement not directed at him, but he took it personally. And how do you argue with a man whose son is THE fastest kid in the state. Yep, Mr. Meateater came in #1 and VegBoy is 300th. He's okay now, but was pretty down Saturday night. However, he and a friend are doing a run on the 18th through the forest and check points. He's looking forward to running in the woods, that's his favorite. Thanks for listening to me brag about my child, once again. Oh yea, and his sister the really dyslexic 16 year old child came home with 5 A's and 1 C+! That is the best she's ever done. And this is the first semester she has been aware of her eating habits and has made a conscious effort to eat better. Not 100% raw, but better!!! Shari - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:23:35 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: [rawlife] Mineral Balance Marie, >There are at least six others I was on that they now warn could cause >liver problems or kidney problems. They all do. They just abandon each drug as the facts become more obvious how poisonous they are (or when the patent runs out) and move on to touting the "new, improved" drug. Because all drugs are poisons, they cause stress to our organs of detoxification, which include the liver and kidneys especially. >Another thing gets me.....they advertise something to stop a drippy nose, >but warn it could cause constipation, diarrhea, kidney failure, high >blood pressure, heart palpitations and a few other things. I'd rather have a drippy nose, wouldn't you? >Before you know it they will be prescribing one drug for a right nostril >drip, and yet another one for a left nostril drip. Anything to make >money. They already use one drug to counteract the "side-effects" of another and keep going until a patient is on 50 different medications. They are taught that symptoms = disease, no symptoms = health. They don't understand that symptoms represent the healing process in action and mustn't be interfered with. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 20:30:27 +0800 From: Greg Woolley Subject: [rawlife] Interesting web sites on rainforests and figs Hello all, thought you may be interested to check these out. The web site has interesting links too:- Rain forest trees:- http://www.szgdocent.org/ff/f-tree.htm Figs and fig wasps:- http://www.szgdocent.org/ff/f-fig.htm Regards, Greg Woolley - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:10:49 +0100 From: "e.j. woutman" Subject: [rawlife] last call dear friends, I am only inches away from (for the time being...) unsubscribing from the list. The situation is: I am living with my wife and two young daughters, all of whom are enthusiastically SDD (dutch version of SAD). Personally I would like to live as raw as possible, which I did for some 18 months, till about a year ago. It was not easy, and took a lot of perseverance, flexibility and improvisation on my part. There are no other raw fooders in my surroundings. I know I can do raw for an extended period, enjoying it, because I like fruits and like to live 'clean' and feel healthy. However, I also love cooked foods in any form and quantity. Being surrounded by cooked and attractive foods all the time proved too much for me, and being in a period of personal and occupational hardship, I decided to give up and eat my fill again. Gaining the old extra 15 kilos again. At the moment, I am looking at another 12,5 years of cooked and unhappy family life until the kids leave home and I hope to be a free man again. This being as it is, it would be best to leave this list now, to return with enthusiasm again in 12,5 years. (I know some things never change...) . Before unsubscribing I would like to know: a. if any of you recognize this situation and know of more creative and positive ways to deal with it, b. if there is another list (the twelve steps list, e.g.) which focuses more on the hardships of 'kicking the habit', of dealing with this terrible cooked food addiction in a hostile (foodwise) environment. thanks Ernst - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 09:33:29 EST From: owner-rawlife@rawtimes.com Subject: [rawlife] Viktoras Kulvinskas comes to New York City Raw Food Fest with Viktoras Kulvinskas, father of the modern Raw Food Movement, Co-founder with Ann Wigmore of The Hippocrates Institute Autor of Survival in the 21st century January 19th-2st, 2001 -3 days of Raw Food Preparations (all meals consumed by participants) - -2 Lectures each Day, Questions & Answers. Private Consultations Saturday night New Life Celebration Party Raw Food Fest New York City http://www.newliferesourcecenter.com/rawfoodfest/index.html or go to http://www.EatAlgaeToday.com/rawfoodfest or call (212) 246-2544 or toll free 800 684-6915 - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:56:15 -0700 From: "Sharon Bergida" Subject: [rawlife] Fw: press release: "Activating Inner Joy" Hi again, I am forwarding this flyer on an event that is happening this weekend in Sedona, Arizona. This is sure to be a great day... When you call to register, say that you were referred by Full Spectrum Living Events./Sharon (Firefly) and receive a special discounted price. JOYFUL YOU LAUNCHES NEW SEMINAR "Activating Inner Joy," an interactive playshop for ages 18 to 80, will be offered November 11 at Sedona's Lizard Head Hall. Attendees will learn the "Sweet Sixteen" Joy Activators through a variety of fun experiential activities. It will be faciltated by five caring dynamic Instructors: Dr. Brandy Howe, Tony Bedford, Jack and Gabrielle Loomis, Dr. Peggy Joy Jenkins. It is being sponsored by Joyful You, a subsidiary of Joyful Child Inc., a nonprofit educational organization that promotes inner joy. Author Peggy Jenkins founded Joyful Child in 1990 after receiving a UNICEF award for her book Joyful Child: A Sourcebook of Activities and Ideas for Releasing Children's Natural Joy. She has trained facilitators all over the country to teach the Joyful Child classes to parents and teachers. Soon she will be training facilitators to take the "Activating Inner Joy" seminar across the country. She says that there is a clamor among the general public to feel the inner joy that is their birthright and this new seminar is and answer to that need. Peggy reminds us that "Joy is an inside job" because it is the feeling component of love -- that unconditional love of self and others. Her favorite definition of joy comes from the ageless wisdom teachings: "Joy is a quality of the soul and is realized when personality and soul are in alignment." That is why, she says, that joy and ordinary happiness are not the same thing. Peggy loves to share information on how healthy Joy is for us. It heals, nurtures, and expands us physically, emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. This is because it raises our vibrations, she explains. She also reminds us that our joy is longing to be expressed and that there will be many opportunities to do that in this unique playshop. There will be creative expression activities, movement, dance, meaningful exchanges, awareness expanding games, and lightening up through laughter. The Seminar is Nov.11 from 9 am to 5:30. A Bonus Evening is also available at no extra charge. Lizard Head Hall is in West Sedona,AZ on Hwy 89A behind Nationwide UPS. The fee of $75 per person includes take-home materials. Bring your mate or friend and pay only $10 for two. To Register, contact Joyful You. Visa and MC are accepted. Phone:520-282-13ll, Fax: 282-2992, PO Box 3808, Sedona AZ 86340, email: joyful @sedona.net . You may wish to visit the Website at http://www. joy4u.org Have fun... Sharon - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:41:28 EST From: Cillakat@aol.com Subject: [rawlife] last call In a message dated 11/9/00 7:31:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, e.woutman@hccnet.nl writes: < This being as it is, it would be best to leave this list now, to return < with enthusiasm again in 12,5 years. < Before unsubscribing I would like to know: < a. if any of you recognize this situation and know of more creative and < positive ways to deal with it, < b. if there is another list (the twelve steps list, e.g.) which focuses < more on the hardships of 'kicking the habit', of dealing with this terrible < cooked food addiction in a hostile (foodwise) environment. I don't know answers to the specific questions you ask, but I can recommend the book _Fit for Life_ which offers ways of using both cooked and raw foods in ways that are very healthy (healthy afa cooked goes, anyway:)). It's probably more than 50% raw and follows natural hygiene food combining principles. I've been able to pretty much follow it for extended periods of time - while surrounded by followers/proponents of SAD. It's easy to follow the principles and still get alot of raw - which of course, is better than no raw. It always helps me to remember that the benefits of raw are 'dose dependent' - - meaning the more I get the better for me.....and the the *risks* of cooked are also dose dependent - meaning that the more cooked I get, the more risk for me.....keeping in mind this dose dependent relationship keeps me doing more raw than not. it's the same mindset i've used to keep breastfeeding my daughter during the tough times (nursing strikes, biting, increased night nursing).....the more human milk she gets, the better off she is...... katherine in atl - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:25:23 -0800 From: "Hal R. Haley" Subject: Re: [rawlife] last call Ernst, I am nearing four years all raw, and live with my wife and three children who eat cooked. You seem to have already resigned yourself to eating cooked again, I assume because it is comforting. If this is the case, then my recommendation would be the more raw the better. For about one year before going "all the way", I was "all raw until dinner". This was VERY EASY for me; I did not even think of cooked until my drive home from work. If you do go back to cooked, I would not under any circumstances incorporate meat, it's just too poison, and I would try to make ALL of my veggies organic. If you have not completely given up, then you should grab your bootstraps and pull yourself up out of that morass of dis-ease that is the SAD, find, use and keep a NETWORK (this list is one) of people who can boost your spirits when you're down, and do your utmost to eliminate temptation. I also would recommend reading Fit For Life (thanks, Katherine!), and to boost your spirits right now, try a glass of fresh apple cranberry juice (three apples and about 25 or 30 cranberries). Good luck, and remember Spring is just around the corner! Hal - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:webmaster@rawtimes.com ------------------------------ End of rawlife-digest V1 #404 ***************************** --- ******************* END OF POST ****************************** RAWLIFE-DIGEST - faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html