From: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com (rawlife-digest) To: rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Subject: rawlife-digest V1 #132 Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Sender: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Errors-To: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Precedence: bulk rawlife-digest Sunday, January 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 132 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:07:20 EST From: Paulladendorf@aol.com Subject: For Sale..Cheap 3- 6ooo watt generators 500 pounds of dried fruits and nuts 300 gallons of water 100 lbs. of pasta 2 tons of canned food 10- 45 gallon drums of gasoline 100 flashlight batteries 4 12 gauge shotguns 800 yards of barbed wire fencing 75 land mines one watch tower 8 dobermans 6 pittbulls one "welcome" matt (never used) :-) - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:53:13 -0800 From: Linda Subject: Re: your new book I love you website. Your new book sounds intriguing; a great place for a "newbie" like me to begin. I love to see things like a daily menu plan. Right now, I would love to see in writing a proposed plan for a month for a single person. This plan would include, 1)the menus for that month 2) the shopping list for the month, broken down by the week 3) the preparation SCHEDULE for each week! This is what is bogging me down. I have a full time job and it seems like I'm spending an inordinate amount of time studying cookbooks, trying to think far enough in advance to soak, sprout, dehydrate, blend, etc I would like to know approximately how much it will cost me to eat raw foods, per month, so I can budget this. I can't know this until I know how many pounds of nuts, seeds and grains I might use in a month--to buy in bulk.Then add the produce. Do you have a SIMPLE shedule I could follow? What do YOU do? I get tired of salads every day. BTW. I'm still looking for housemate(s) to share raw food support and household expenses with, in Seattle. Any ideas? Thanks, Stay peaceful--Linda Paul Nison wrote: > hello all, > My web site is now up for my new book THE RAW LIFE > check it out WWW.RAWLIFE.COM > I would love your comments and have a great new year > > >From Paul Nison > The Durian King > > --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html > subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:19:15 EST From: GMCoffey@aol.com Subject: Re: Raw-Food & Yoga Retreat In Maui, Hawaii In a message dated 12/10/99 5:38:12 PM Central Standard Time, nature@cari.net writes: << Subj: Raw-Food & Yoga Retreat In Maui, Hawaii Date: 12/10/99 5:38:12 PM Central Standard Time From: nature@cari.net (Nature's First Law) Sender: owner-rawlife@rawtimes.com Reply-to: rawlife@rawtimes.com To: nature@rawfood.com Raw-Food & Yoga Retreat In Maui, Hawaii March 6-12, 2000 Things we have scheduled: Daily food prep classes, daily yoga classes, nightly seminars, slide show, daily personal consultations, waterfall excursion, Makena beach excursion, three gourmet raw-food meals daily, amazing pool with a waterslide, sauna, two hot-tubs, watsu pool, and much, much more! Speakers/Instructors include: Stephen Arlin, author of "Raw Power!" and "Nature's First Law" Jolie Arlin, Raw Lifestyle & Recipe Classes Dennis Dean, Yoga Master Sequoia Neptune, Yoga Master & Raw Lifestyle Renee Underkoffler, Raw Chef Extraordinaire, author of "The Raw Truth" David Wolfe, author of "Sunfood Diet Success System" and "Nature's First Law" $1600.00 covers accommodations at the beautiful retreat center, 3 gourmet raw-food meals daily, all lectures, classes, excursions, and consultations. Sign up now, this event will sell out. Only 8 spaces left. Information for the retreat is now online at: http://www.rawfood.com/retreat.html To register for the retreat, please call 1-888-RAW-FOOD or 619-229-8259 Hope to see you there! Nature's First Law Staff >> Hi, David: We met at the European Vegetarian Congress in Widnau, Switzerland. Do you need another speaker for your event? Below is my resume: Gerry;-) *********** GERRY COFFEY: Reporter/Writer/Health Educator/PR: Health/Fitness/Environment 28 Harbor View Court NE, Decatur, Alabama 35601 2565/350-2823 Fax 256/350-0925 E-mail: gmcoffey@aol.com MASS MEDIA EXPERIENCE: 20 years in Print and Broadcast Media June 1999: Speaker: European Vegetarian Congress: Widnau, Switzerland Subject: "Food and Behavior: Violence or Tranquillity" Jan. 1999: Speaker/Fitness Instructor: World Vegetarian Conference, Thailand Also: Malaysia, Australia, and New Zealand July 1997: Presenter: NAVS International Health Conference, Uni of Pittsburgh: · Preventing/Reversing Disease through Nutrition & Fitness · Food Prep Classes: Raw/Fresh/Fat/Sugar/Guilt-free Desserts! (:-D) · Instructor: Exercise Breaks for 500 plus audience: to strengthen abs/lower back · Panel Participant: Media/PR Relations for Non Profit Organizations May 1997: Haiti: P.R./Fitness/Nutrition aid for destitute mothers & children ON-GOING SINCE 1994: · Founder, co-leader Coffey Break: Disease-Free-Living through Fitness & Nutrition. Talks/Workshops: schools, clubs, organizations, churches. CHANGE-YOUR-LIFE Weekend Retreats: Learn practical applications for everyday living · P.R.for Earth Day Founder, John McConnell, & YOUNG EARTH TRUSTEES · 1992 -- 1999: Host: COFFEY BREAK: Public Interest: radio talk show featuring fitness/health/environmental luminaries: Dr(s) Henry Heimlick; John McDougall; T. 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Calhoun College, 1974 - --Ongoing: study/research/conferences/seminars: fitness & nutrition - --11/’97: Health Minister’s Training: Dr. George Malkmus Hallelujah Diet - -- 3/’98: Gerson Cancer Therapy Practitioner’s Training Prog., Sedona., AZ AWARDS/HONORS/AFFILIATIONS · Only reporter to travel/report on Thai King & Queen, & Flying Doctors’ program · First Place Feature Writing, Alabama Intercollegiate Press Assn., 1980 · Judged in top 5% of female college athletes age 18-29 (at age 48, mother of 4) · Winner: American Heart Assn. 4 hour Aerobiciz-a-thon (1988) · Outstanding Student Award, Radio/TV 1979 · President: Huntsville Advanced Toastmasters’ Club · Councillor: Vegetarian Union of North America Personal: Wife, mother, grandmother;-) References Available Upon Request - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:42:25 -0800 From: Linda Subject: Re: Blood type - Ancestors Ok. I'll join you all in this fun-for all. I have O neg. blood type with distant German and French/Canadian ancestry, mostly American. Who's keeping track of all this? *grin* Linda judy mcdonough wrote: > OK, but it is still interesting to know. Also, my best friend is an O with > welsh/french canadian ancestry, and if she's eaten anything raw in the last > five years it was by accident. So, if anyone else out there has the same > profile, I'll feel that there's hope for her. > jm > > >From: barbara Cohen > >Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com > >To: "rawlife@rawtimes.com" > >Subject: Blood type - Ancestors > >Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 21:50:23 -0800 > > > >Me too, A-positive w/ Lithuanian parents.... but I don't think it has a > >thing to do with it.... though!!! We are clutching at straws here!!! > > > >Barbara > > > > > >--- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html > >subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html > subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:03:45 EST From: GMCoffey@aol.com Subject: Re: Scorpios In a message dated 12/11/99 8:44:09 AM Central Standard Time, HFWESSELS@aol.com writes: << n a message dated 12/11/99 6:49:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, Oysters476@aol.com writes: Celia- we now have: cancers, gemini, scorpios, aries. No Pisces? Heide > >> Hi, Heide: I'm a Pisces!;-) Gerry - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:18:44 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: Welcome from Australia/Byron Bay In a message dated 01/01/2000 10:44:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, eck@wn.com.au writes: Hi- > I have just had two holidays near Byron Bay, If you ever get the > chance to go there, Don,t hesitate ! > Byron Bay is a thriving cosmopolitan tourist town. > beautiful beaches and magnificent weather and beautiful earthy people and > great surf. > I could move there tomorrow.. > They have a few festivals at different times of the year.. > I believe Easter is the blues music festival there.. > The town not far in Nimbin have a marijuana festival at a certain time of > the year, This could only happen in Nimbin and the bright colorful town is a > experience to visit. > all around these areas organic produce is available by very alternate > people, a great area to spend some time and enjoy the wonderful scenery and > rainforrests and wildlife.> Can't wait to pack my suitcase. The northeast corner of New Zealand also looked georgeous in yesterday's Celebration. Love, Heide - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 09:44:02 +1100 From: Vicky Subject: Re: the ideal diet? Guy Goddard wrote: > I am convinced by the literature that a raw food, perhaps a raw fruit > diet is the ideal one for man. > However major doubts are raised in my mind by the fact that I never read > or hear about long-living people (actual people as opposed to > statistics) consuming a raw food diet. > > MIGHT IT BE THAT GENETICS, RATHER THAN DIET, HAS A FAR GREATER PART TO > PLAY IN LONGEVITY THAN WE WISH WERE TRUE? > > PS I seem to be simply unable to survive on a raw food diet - I become > dangerously underweight. Might this be because I am of the genetically > 'weedy' stock that would simply not survive in the 'real natural world.' Its not about length of life, its about quality of life!!!!!! If you cant put on weight with avocadoes, sprouted nuts/seeds etc, you are simply not trying hard enough!! Smiles, FRanny - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:45:25 EST From: NoGuile144@aol.com Subject: Re: all juice diet ? In a message dated 1/1/00 9:50:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, HappyAlan@prodigy.net writes: << This wonderful new millenium morning I had some cantaloupe juice and just now some carrot, apple, wheat grass blend. Along with these juices I have been using the arise & shine cleansing herbs and I might say they are doing their job very well. What Ive been wondering and now pose the question to all of you experts is what is wrong with an all juice diet in light of the fact that a baby is on an "all juice diet" for up to 2 to 3 years when they are developing the most with the mother acting as the " juicer " to a happy new millenium Alan >> Hi Alan, I am not an expert at all, just ideas from my reading about the colon. They indicate that colon is also used for purification of the body of dead cells that happen continually. Also other cleansing takes place, besides the skin and urinary outlets. Some bulk like psyllium or something like that they say is needed. Somebody else might know on this topic more? God's love, Peter - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:51:03 EST From: SHARRUM@aol.com Subject: Re: Living Nutrition Hi Nomi, So you don't agree with David Klein, because you are no longer 100% raw? You found 100% too hard to live on and you are now 80%, is that correct? Or is it the whole spice thing you don't like because you can't make your recipes without them? You don't like the simple raw food diet? These are just some things I have picked up on from being on the list and reading your opinions. Did I get any of this correct? Happy 2000 Sharon Michigan - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:56:35 EST From: SHARRUM@aol.com Subject: Re: From Paul Nison Hi Paul, I am definitely going to read your site after reading all my email. Also, I am anxiously waiting to buy your new book. Good luck. Sharon Michigan - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:07:28 EST From: SHARRUM@aol.com Subject: Re: the ideal diet? Hi Bob, I would really like to see a picture of you. Are you muscular? When everybody starts talking about what they weigh after being on a raw diet, it does not sound healthy and I think this scares alot of people off. I think if all the healthy rawfooders started putting there pictures on the list, that would reassure people who are worried about being too thin, Let us see some pictures of raw fooders. Does anybody else agree with me? Love ya and Happy 2000, Sharon of Michgian - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:47:33 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: Blood type - Ancestors In a message dated 01/01/2000 4:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, lkreeves@uswest.net writes: > I have O neg. blood type with distant German and French/Canadian ancestry, > mostly American. Who's keeping track of all this? *grin* You, Linda. I am tracking astrological signs. Heide - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:19:04 -0500 From: "alan l mikoleit" Subject: Re: the ideal diet? Hi Sharon Michigan I'll post my picture if some one tells me how to do it. Ya let's have a picture area for all of our pictures. Alan - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 22:51:43 -0500 From: natasha Subject: re: blood types - ancestors i'm a b positive canadian, with austrian/romanian lineage. say, who started this? natasha - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 21:43:18 -0800 From: Linda Subject: Re: Blood type - Ancestors ha! Too late. I've deleted all 72 messages. Took me forever to read them. Whew! We sure are a talkative bunch, huh? Oh, well. I go back to work this Monday; vacation time with the kids is over. I'll have no more time. I may be skimming a lot faster. :-( Stay peaceful--Linda HFWESSELS@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 01/01/2000 4:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > lkreeves@uswest.net writes: > > > I have O neg. blood type with distant German and French/Canadian ancestry, > > mostly American. Who's keeping track of all this? *grin* > You, Linda. > I am tracking astrological signs. > Heide > > --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html > subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:48:01 +1100 From: "eck" Subject: Re: the ideal diet? Yes Sharron, I agree...So where is your pic..we are waiting...... get the ball rolling , it would be great to get a mentle picture of who we all are and have a face to go with the name. Erica , Perth ..W.Australia - -----Original Message----- From: SHARRUM@aol.com To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Date: Sunday, 2 January 2000 10:16 Subject: Re: the ideal diet? >Hi Bob, > >I would really like to see a picture of you. Are you muscular? When >everybody starts talking about what they weigh after being on a raw diet, it >does not sound healthy and I think this scares alot of people off. I think >if all the healthy rawfooders started putting there pictures on the list, >that would reassure people who are worried about being too thin, Let us see >some pictures of raw fooders. Does anybody else agree with me? > >Love ya and Happy 2000, > >Sharon >of Michgian > >--- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html >subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:56:56 -0500 From: Bob Avery Subject: How to Eat, Muscles, Pictures Linda, > 3) the preparation SCHEDULE for each week! This is what is bogging me down. I >have a full time job and it seems like I'm spending an inordinate amount >of time studying cookbooks, trying to think far enough in advance to >soak, sprout, dehydrate, blend, etc Boy, you really like to be dictated to, don't you? Why not just peel and eat some fruit just as it comes from nature when it's in a ripe condition and blenderize some green (or other) vegetables in whatever combinations taste good to you and eat them like a cold soup? OK, add a handful of nuts or seeds to the blender too, presoaked in water overnight and rinsed, preferably. Who needs "cookbooks"? >I would like to know approximately how much it will cost me to eat raw >foods, per month, so I can budget this. Depends on how hungry you are and how high a quality of produce you want to buy (organic is recommended). If you want to save money, making your own sprouts is a good way. Costs me roughly $300/month rarely sprouting and eating 90%+ organic. Depending on where you live and how available quality food is at reasonable prices, how much you eat, and how much of your own food you grow and to what standards, your mileage will vary. Sharon, >I would really like to see a picture of you. Are you muscular? Sorry, but I work out more on this keyboard than with weights (probably to my own detriment). Even if I did, I'd be the small, wiry type, not the beefy jock type. Small-boned, not muscular, but without much fat either. For a picture (a few years out of date), see www.rawtimes.com/p-bavery.html. > it does not sound healthy and I think this scares alot of people off. People are conditioned to think weight = health for some strange reason, which is just about opposite to the truth. I keep having fatsos that have had triple bypasses and pacemaker implants come up to me and say things like, "We've got to fatten you up. You're too skinny." Well, my own heart beats just fine on its own at this weight without all the artificial assistance these people require to keep going. Sorry, but I don't intend to become overweight just to satisfy somebody else's definition of health, and musclebuilding just isn't a big priority in my life right now. It takes time, dedication, and a lot of work to do it right -- but it's the only proper way to gain weight (in other words, if you want to gain something, gain muscle, not fat). Alan, > I'll post my picture if some one tells me how to do it. Ya let's have a >picture area for all of our pictures. I think jr would put them on his website when he gets back from vacation if you sent them to him with a bio. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:18:07 +0800 From: "Guy Goddard" Subject: ideal diet? I submit again my comment of a few days ago. I am convinced by the literature that a raw food, perhaps a raw fruit diet is the ideal one for man. However, major doubts are raised in my mind by the fact that I never read or hear about long-living people (actual people as opposed to statistics) consuming a raw food diet. By this I mean, people who actually have a birth certificate as proof. Sure, maybe there is some obscure tribe where they live to 120 or 140 but the birth certificate carries much more weight in my mind. Even the rare raw food eater in the modern documented world should absolutely leave the rest of the population for dead (ha! ha!) in the longevity stakes if the raw food diet really is superior. I'm not trying to be critical - just searching for the truth. MIGHT IT BE THAT GENETICS, RATHER THAN DIET, HAS A FAR GREATER PART TO PLAY IN LONGEVITY THAN WE WISH WERE TRUE? Regards Guy Goddard - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:42:01 -0800 From: "Hovila" Subject: Re: ideal diet? Guy, Lots of things influence longevity besides diet. To name a few: heredity, mental attitude, exercise, pollution, wars. It's 3:00 a.m. and I could probably think of more if . . . oh, yeah, getting enough sleep is another. The list could go on and on. The entertainer George Burns, who lived to be 100, spoke about the importance of loving what you do for a living. I guess in his case that was more important than the harm his cigars were causing him. If anybody thinks that raw food alone is the key to long life, they are deluding themselves. I would also suggest that to adopt a raw food diet (or any diet) primarily so that one will live longer may be counterproductive. A future-oriented strategy such as this is based in fear. Living in the here and now eliminates fear, leads to enlightenment, and, as a fringe benefit, will probably also extend one's lifespan. Still, it might be interesting to see how many names of long-lived raw foodists we could come up with. The only one I know about (or, more accurately, have read about) is Dr. Norman Walker, who supposedly lived to be 108 or so. Mark >MIGHT IT BE THAT GENETICS, RATHER THAN DIET, HAS A FAR GREATER PART TO >PLAY IN LONGEVITY THAN WE WISH WERE TRUE? > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:44:07 EST From: NoGuile144@aol.com Subject: Re: ideal diet? In a message dated 1/2/00 5:23:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, earlydaz@iinet.net.au writes: <> Hi Guy and others, I think you are correct that genetics has the major effect on our longevity, but that is something that we do not have any choice. The one thing that we have choice, is our lifestyle -- are we at peace with ourselves, do we have that unconditional love to all and then do we have a diet that is the very best for us? This gives us individually the best quality and longevity according to our genetics, don't you think? It does not take any intelligence to have a lousy diet, but it does take a little thinking to have the courage for superior lifestyle. In God's love, Peter << I submit again my comment of a few days ago. I am convinced by the literature that a raw food, perhaps a raw fruit diet is the ideal one for man. However, major doubts are raised in my mind by the fact that I never read or hear about long-living people (actual people as opposed to statistics) consuming a raw food diet. By this I mean, people who actually have a birth certificate as proof. Sure, maybe there is some obscure tribe where they live to 120 or 140 but the birth certificate carries much more weight in my mind. Even the rare raw food eater in the modern documented world should absolutely leave the rest of the population for dead (ha! ha!) in the longevity stakes if the raw food diet really is superior. I'm not trying to be critical -- just searching for the truth. MIGHT IT BE THAT GENETICS, RATHER THAN DIET, HAS A FAR GREATER PART TO PLAY IN LONGEVITY THAN WE WISH WERE TRUE? Regards Guy Goddard >> - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:13:58 -0500 From: jbmc@attglobal.net Subject: Re: ideal diet? At 03:42 AM 1/2/00 -0800, Mr. Hovila wrote: >I would also suggest that to adopt a raw food diet (or any diet) primarily >so that one will live longer may be counterproductive. A future-oriented >strategy such as this is based in fear. Living in the here and now >eliminates fear, leads to enlightenment, and, as a fringe benefit, will >probably also extend one's lifespan. * * * * * * * But fear, Mr. Hovila, does not fall upon us from the sky: it springs, on the contrary, from our very flesh and blood. Negative thoughts and negative emotions are produced by a sick physio-neurology which, in turn, is the inevitable and inesorable product of dietetic transgression. Staging positive thoughts and emotions is just a show that we can sustain only for awhile and at the cost of a considerable expenditure of energy. And when the show is over, we find ourselves back with the reality of our toxic Or- ganisms, our perverted physiologies. We should face the problem *where* it occurs, not where its symptoms are manifested. My best regards, jb Mirabile-caruso. ======================================================================== "Healing Leaf Vegetarianism": the only pathway back to Edenic physiology ======================================================================== - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:16:44 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: How to Eat, Muscles, Pictures In a message dated 01/02/2000 2:03:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, rwavery@juno.com writes: Bob- that link is no lonver available. Just go to "people" and scroll down to "Avery" to see the picture. Heide in DC > www.rawtimes.com/p-bavery.html. > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:21:10 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: ideal diet? In a message dated 01/02/2000 5:23:42 AM Eastern Standard Time, earlydaz@iinet.net.au writes: > I am convinced by the literature that a raw food, perhaps a raw fruit > diet is the ideal one for man. What puzzles me is how people live to 119 (a woman in DC died yesterday) on a SAD diet....? What it tells me intuitively that while an ideal diet is desirable, there is so much more to diet that we don't know (yet). I think the pesticides of the last years have proportionally more impact than the "cooked" diet.... Heide in DC - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:24:51 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: ideal diet? In a message dated 01/02/2000 6:36:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, hovila@foxinternet.net writes: Mark- thanks for your wonderful post. I very much agree with you, just posted to that effect. Heide in DC > I would also suggest that to adopt a raw food diet (or any diet) primarily > so that one will live longer may be counterproductive. A future-oriented > strategy such as this is based in fear. Living in the here and now > eliminates fear, leads to enlightenment, and, as a fringe benefit, will > probably also extend one's lifespan. > > Still, it might be interesting to see how many names of long-lived raw > foodists we could come up with. The only one I know about (or, more > accurately, have read about) is Dr. Norman Walker, who supposedly lived to > be 108 or so. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:26:22 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: ideal diet? In a message dated 01/02/2000 7:46:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, NoGuile144@aol.com writes: > It does not take any intelligence to have a lousy > diet, but it does take a little thinking to have the courage for superior > lifestyle. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:27:44 EST From: HFWESSELS@aol.com Subject: Re: ideal diet? In a message dated 01/02/2000 7:46:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, NoGuile144@aol.com writes: Peter- I think this language "superior" is judgmental...a better choice might be "different" lifestyle...:-) Heide > It does not take any intelligence to have a lousy > diet, but it does take a little thinking to have the courage for superior > lifestyle. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:27:16 -0500 From: "Alan Mikoleit" Subject: over exercising Hi Everyone I just got back from an absolutely awesome early morning bike ride - wow this early morning fl weather. As I was riding some things came to mind. Over this last summer I read a lot of health related books and several of them mentioned to not over exercise but to take it easy. A certain amount of exercise is good but beyond that you are only tearing your self down. Witness the early demise of professional athletes like cyclist and runners they are basically history at 32. I myself have vowed to never compete in anything any more but especially athletics. It's so easy to get caught up in all of that here with all of these racers on the road. But its so much nicer to just relax and enjoy the time and the scenery. Then I thought about our friend Gunner and wondered if this message would have pertained to him. So have a happy new year and don't over do it, we're in this for the long run. Time for some fresh made v8 juice : ) Alan Fl - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:09:52 PST From: "Gun Penhoat" Subject: Re: synergystic assimalation of nutrients ... I meant Georgia, of course ... we seem to go from not too cold to very hot and too dry (or too humid), no happy medium, in just a few weeks and that makes it very difficult to grow greens... GunP >From: "alan l mikoleit" >Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com >To: >Subject: Re: synergystic assimalation of nutrients >Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 08:37:45 -0500 > >GunP > > >How to do your grow food in a climate like here in Goregia? > >I have no idea what the Gorgia climate is like, tell us. > >Alan > > >--- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html >subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net ------------------------------ End of rawlife-digest V1 #132 ***************************** --- RAWLIFE-DIGEST - faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html subscriptions, problems, questions, mailto:attuner@bestweb.net