From: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com (rawlife-digest) To: rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Subject: rawlife-digest V1 #40 Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Sender: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Errors-To: owner-rawlife-digest@rawtimes.com Precedence: bulk rawlife-digest Friday, September 24 1999 Volume 01 : Number 040 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:44:16 ICT From: "Tom ..." Subject: fingernails Hey, since I've gone raw (about 6 weks now), I've found that I no longer bite my fingernails. This is the first time in most of my life where I've had all my nails. Anyone else have something like this happen to them, or am I just a weirdo? ;>) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:35:11 -0700 From: attuner Subject: Fwd: achtung! vere are your papers!?/rene >Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:53:20 -0700 >To: rawlife@rawtimes >From: attuner >Subject: achtung! vere are your papers!?/rene > >dear rene- thank you once again for you loving and reasonable comments. i >always appreciate what you share. the next time i go buy some raw organic >produce, i hope they will not have any surveillance cameras there just in >case the ralphie boys of the world try and have their unfortunate big >brother ways. can you imagine what a fine fascist he would have made? or >perhaps more accurately, what a fine fascist he IS!? sorry, i really don't >like to bash people i haven't had a chance to get to know somehow. yet he >does not strike me as the type of tribes person i would like to be in the >trenches with if there was a battle going on. you can tell who is >dependable if you consider who would you want by your side in a "fight." >he doesn't seem to be the sort of 'friend' i would want. so peace be unto him. > love, neil from pomona, ny - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:23:58 EDT From: GMCoffey@aol.com Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? In a message dated 9/23/99 4:01:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Angels3x@aol.com writes: << How much of the nutritional value is lost depending on how long before it is consumed? >> Hope that somebody has that answer? Best we ever heard so far is that if we use a regular juicer -- we should drink it now. The Green Power juicer -- they say, that if filled in a container will keep for few days. One place you might check is - Hallelujah Acres - http://hacres.com or talk to somebody in the office - 704-481-1700 God's blessing - Peter in Md >> Thanks for your reply. I do already have info from Hallelujah Acres and the Green Power, but they don't quote any particular study to verify their findings, and as the man points out, after several hours in the fridge they all still start "turning," indicating oxidation. FWIW: GC - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:24:33 -0700 From: "Davey" Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? Why does he have to juice it the night before? Juicing is processing, which alters the organizing energies of the food. I don't juice, but use a blender to make smoothies. I find they just don't taste or feel the same after the stuff has sit for more than a hour. I try to get that stuff down the hatch with as little processing and as soon as possible. My sence, though, is that I'm still hooked on processing food, even raw stuff. Some days when I just eat everything whole, I feel the best. Remember we use to pick it right off the plant and stick it right in our mouths. That's fresh! His teeth (and I'm assuming he has teeth) are probably the best juicer he could find. Sorry to give you the rhetoric, not the scientific stuff you were looking for. There are lots of juicing books around too. They might have more of the info you want. David. Vancouver, BC. - -----Original Message----- From: GMCoffey@aol.com To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? >In a message dated 9/23/99 4:01:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Angels3x@aol.com >writes: > ><< How much of the nutritional value is lost depending on how long before it >is > consumed? >> > Hope that somebody has that answer? > Best we ever heard so far is that if we use a regular juicer -- we should > drink it now. The Green Power juicer -- they say, that if filled in a > container will keep for few days. > One place you might check is - Hallelujah Acres - http://hacres.com or >talk > to somebody in the office - 704-481-1700 > God's blessing - Peter in Md > >> > Thanks for your reply. > >I do already have info from Hallelujah Acres and the Green Power, but they >don't quote any particular study to verify their findings, and as the man >points out, after several hours in the fridge they all still start "turning," >indicating oxidation. > >FWIW: > >GC > >--- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html >to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com >with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 03:30:11 -0400 From: Bob Avery Subject: Re: Hello all Andrea, >After six months i felt better. But now its here again. What can i do? How much raw do you eat? Do you have constipation? Usually eczema is caused by the normal routes of elimination getting clogged up, so the skin opens to give the body an emergency route of elimination. I hope you are not eating roasted nuts. These can be very clogging and toxic. Ben, >Some suggestions i would give is to cleanse the liver with >lots of carrot juiceand herbal teas like burdock, chapparal,brigham tea,and >red clover any other questions please fell free to contact me.I am a >herbalist and i have helped clear up a case with 24 years of sufferring. If she could fast for awhile, that would be even better. A week would probably be long enough to clear up the eczema, but it might come back if the diet weren't upgraded after the fast. Gerry, >Even many of the professional N.H. doctors advocate consuming far more >protein than necessary. > >Raw foodists (and others) can obtain all the vitamins and minerals they need >from fruits and vegetables. Minerals, in fact, in the proper balance are >better obtained from green, leafy vegetables. Of course, greens are pretty high in protein too, especially in juiced or powdered form. >ps: the oils, usually found in combination with concentrated protein, also >contribute to eye problems. (From one who knows personally;-( A 70-year-old long time near raw foodist woman I know says that when she stays away from concentrated fats, like avos (she doesn't eat nuts and seeds at all), she doesn't need reading glasses, but the fats make reading glasses necessary. I have been nearsighted since about 3rd grade and all raw for nearly 7 years now, yet my eyesight is still slowly getting worse, so I don't have all the answers either. >Can anyone direct me to "official" info on how long it takes for vegetable >(carrot/green) juice to oxidize? I don't know of any "official" figures. They would be meaningless anyway, as the rate of oxidation will depend on how the juice was made (which juicer), how fresh the raw materials were when they were juiced, and the storage temperature and oxygen exposure in the storage container (a full container would last longer than a half full one). You can usually tell by taste whether it has appreciably spoiled. With the Acme juicer, I've found carrot/beet/green mixtures to spoil in a couple days in the fridge. With added vitamin C crystals (1/4 tsp or 1 gram per pint of juice), the taste doesn't change for about a week. I used to routinely add vitamin C powder to fresh juices as a preservative when I was drinking juice regularly. >A man who's concerned he's wasting his time going to the effort of juicing >the night before if much of the nutritional value is lost, wants not >"heresay" but "official" scientific data. The "waste" is more than compensated by the increased concentration of nutrients. You can drink a lot more carrots or other vegetables than you can eat. Whole vegetables also lose nutrients in storage, BTW. David, >My last long fast was 16 days aproximately ten years ago. I have done >some two day fasts since then. Hope this is what you were interested >in. Is this because you no longer feel the need to fast or some other reason? Paul Bragg took 10-day fasts 4 times a year during his adult life as preventive "medicine." I myself am trying to do 2 fasts a year, but I still have rejuvenative work to do, not just preventive maintenance. Tom, >Hey, since I've gone raw (about 6 weks now), I've found that I no longer >bite my fingernails. This is the first time in most of my life where I've >had all my nails. Anyone else have something like this happen to them, or >am I just a weirdo? ;>) We're fellow weirdos, Tom. Ever since mid-20's I've had an uncontrollable "picking at the cuticles until the skin is a bloody mess" habit. On raw, this habit vanishes for various periods of time, but tends to come back (in a milder form) when I eat too much protein. Perhaps this nervous habit is a way the body forces itself to use up excess protein consumption (rebuilding tissue). I suppose being calmer and less nervous overall has something to do with it too. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:00:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Nest4Robin@webtv.net (Robin Leuenberger) Subject: Skin problems After reading the post below I thought I'd ask about my skin problem. I've been all raw for 3 1/2 months, but I have this terribly itchy rash, mostly on my stomach. Actually, I was almost wondering the other night laying in my waterbed if the waterbed didn't have something to do with my rash, because of the way I lay and where the rash is at. Someone had mentioned my washing detergent could be the problem too. I'm sure it is probably from detox also, but its driving me crazy and I would like some suggestion to help me deal with it. Thanks in advance, I'm itching for relief! :-) Robin <> - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:40:32 +1000 From: "eck" Subject: Fw: Address for itssonatural - ---- Subject: Address for itssonatural > >This is the address for Its~So~Natural, long over due! >Hope you'll find something of interest at this site. Just click on the >address below. > www.itssonatural.com > I hope someone enjoys this site......so natural is a soya milk product in aussie Erica from perth , W.A. > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:26:25 PDT From: "Babette Melin" Subject: pfafia, minerals, cancer hi everybody:) another concern about cancer and my mother... some days ago i heard about a product called PFAFIA. it's from a tree in southamerica. a couple of years ago "we" discovered it here in the west as a remarkable cure for cancer (among lots of other things). its is said to improve the immune system, having 20 of aminoacids and other stuff. anybody else heard of this?? pfafia is a so called adaptogene (like schizandra, ginseng...) which is a very strong "antioxidant" (=the warriors against the free radicals). i read an article about it yesterday, and it was extremely interresting. another thing about fasting (which i'm not either against or for)- do you consider it a good thing that the metabolism decreases, and that the functions of the vital organs such as liver and brain, also decreases radically? and that you are dehydrating, and losing muscles? just wondering... thirdly-about minerals... we need about 90 nutritions every day: 60 minerals, about 16 vitamins and 12 (oh dear i really don't know the word for "spårämnen" sorry) and 3 essential fat-acids. if we are aware, we may get the vitamins and the fat-acids by eating fruits and veggies...but the 60 minerals... we all know that the soil is "poor" nowadays and if there are no minerals in the soil, the fruits and veggies can't take up any minerals! so, we lack a whole lot of minerals, and the cells aren't doing their work properly! people in tibet, or in armenia, are often up to 130-140 years old. why? because they get much nutrition and much minerals. the soil isn't poor, and up in the mountains there is something called "glacier-milk" (i do hope you understand my swenglish!) this "milk" is water from high in the mountains, and it's so full of minerals that it looks like milk! and these people doesn't have cancer or heart-diseases or diabetes or anything! i think this was amazing to read about don't you? i can't put it as nicely or wisely as the doctor-veterinary-nutritionist who had the speech, but i will be back with his name... as he started working as a vet, he realised after thousands of cases, that what animals - and people - die from is lack in nutrition! all the farmers know what to give their cows and pigs when they show symptoms of ...whatever...but the doctors doesn't study any "nutriotion-science" and they get money for doing lots of surgery.. the conclusion is however that, if we are supposed to function optimally, we (us living in western-part of the world where the soil is poor) have to take food supplies - minerals in the colloid form - very important, because the colloid minerals can be taken up by the intestines by 98 %. otherwise we just have to move to some mountain top somewhere where we all can get mineral rich glacier-milk!!:):) i'd rather pee some excess minerals out in the loo, rather than be deficient!:) please give comments on this, and especially if you've heard about the PFAFIA. this became more than i intended to, but i hope you found it interresting too! lots of love again- sorry for my english, some words i just don't know ,if there is something that you just don't understand , please ask, and i will try and look the word up. Babette ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:25:12 +1000 From: Rene Beresford Subject: Securing the Health of Children To all concerned people of the Raw Food/Fruit community. According to the here under quoted messages, it appears that Ralph Cinque has slightly reduced his original threat of calling the police in the event when children show nutritional needs which were not being met, in HIS opinion! However, the statement: "I would take whatever action was necessary" could mean "anything", including STILL calling the police and "Health Welfare" (?) authorities! He has only withdrawn the word "police", and the "threat" still stands as is! Read it carefully! A QUESTION: Mr. Cinque, HOW do you intend your actions to be on the thousands, sorry, hundreds of thousands of children, in the USA alone, who are chronically ill and sick due to the consumption of the "Omnivores" diet, due to the lack of education of parents in proper nutrition, due to a medical profession which still do NOT include nutrition in their curriculum, due to the injections of poisonous vaccinations, due to medicinal drugs, all of which contain poisons, given to children, due to parents still ignorant of the supreme NATURAL raw food and fruit diet. What will be your action against those parents, against those doctors, will you call the police and Government Health Officials in particular who actually support the medical profession's ignorance on nutrition. Please let us know! I expect a proper answer to this question from you, so we can all learn from your wisdom as a Hygienist! You are, of course, aware that adult diseases are already creeping "DOWN" onto children? You are, of course aware of the multitude of obese children? Well, with your knowledge on how to direct parents on what YOU feel is the right nutrition, you should be well informed about the state the USA children are in and also that this is due to the above mentioned facts. As also Dana stated, what about if parents do not listen to YOUR advice on nutrition? I think that not only I , but all of the Raw food and Fruit community are eager to hear your proper answer on all of the above. I trust you are aware that your attitude has been exposed to the whole of the community at large. I, and I am sure ALL of us, would like you to "See the LIGHT" and come down from your belligerent attitude and rather make this a friendly debatable exercise instead of threats. Peaceful Health to all. Rene. ********************************************************* - -----Original Message----- From: Ralph C Cinque To: dana@midcoast.com.au Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Re Calling the Police Message >Dear Dana, > > Let me put it this way: If was aware that a child's nutritional needs >were not being met, and if communicating to the parents did nothing to >correct the situation, I would take whatever action was necessary to >secure the health of the child. Wouldn't you? Ralph Dear Ralph, It would have been wonderful had you acknowledged the harm to health done by your original threat and apologised for it. However, at least you have backed down from your previous belligerent attiutude which is a step in the right direction. We must remember Ralph, that a high percentage of children today fed on conventional diets and lifestyles have diseases related to faulty nutrition. The doctors of these children are not correcting their faulty nutrition, as very few doctors are educated in nutrition. Instead doctors are giving children drugs and other treatments which complicate and compound their diseases. What can one do against a system which perpetuates chronic disease in children like this? A system which seeks to make vaccination compulsory for children despite all the evidence of the harmful effects of vaccination. We have a medical system which does not train its practitioners in healthful living and nutrition. What action do you take Ralph when parents do not listen to your Hygienic, nutritional advice in relation to themselves or their children? Which benevolent and wise system of health care authorities do you call upon to secure the health of children? Dana > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:56:21 EDT From: Angels3x@aol.com Subject: Re: pfafia, minerals, cancer Hi Babette, I just read your interesting information, we will be glad if somebody knows more about PFAFIA - For sure there are lots of products around - I have heard a little, and there are promises too. << the conclusion is however that, if we are supposed to function optimally, we (us living in western-part of the world where the soil is poor) have to take food supplies - minerals in the colloid form - very important, because the colloid minerals can be taken up by the intestines by 98 %. otherwise we just have to move to some mountain top somewhere where we all can get mineral rich glacier-milk!!:):) >> It is interesting that I just got a message yesterday, that indicated about a latest "research" saying that there is no difference in colloidal absorption compared to other inorganic minerals?? You know that experiments with animals have indicated that by feeding cooked meats (organic minerals turning into inorganic) produced bad results over a period of time. Let us see what others also have found out. Looks like you also are doing lots of reading. Nice to hear from you, God's love - Peter in Md. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:42:00 -0400 From: JR Ellis Subject: rene hi rene, david erwin from fpgc.com which is an internet radio station wants to call you but your number seems to be discontinued or wrong can you give me your telephone number or call david at 504-299-1900 in new orleans if you give me your number, i will give it to david jr - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:43:02 EDT From: GMCoffey@aol.com Subject: Re: juicing, etc. In a message dated 9/24/99 2:45:11 AM Central Daylight Time, rwavery@juno.com writes: << Gerry, >Even many of the professional N.H. doctors advocate consuming far more >protein than necessary. > >Raw foodists (and others) can obtain all the vitamins and minerals they need >from fruits and vegetables. Minerals, in fact, in the proper balance are >better obtained from green, leafy vegetables. Of course, greens are pretty high in protein too, especially in juiced or powdered form. - --When I refer to greens, I usually mean Romaine and/or broccoli, and certainly not powered. BTW, Bob, do you use the Barley Green that has no additives? I am curious about that and would like to know more, and possibly how to order, if you have that info. >ps: the oils, usually found in combination with concentrated protein, also contribute to eye problems. (From one who knows personally;-( A 70-year-old long time near raw foodist woman I know says that when she stays away from concentrated fats, like avos (she doesn't eat nuts and seeds at all), she doesn't need reading glasses, but the fats make reading glasses necessary. --I find that avocados affect my eyesight and overall assimilation, although I have learned to dearly love them, and feel I must get a little oil (and protein) from SOMEWHERE, since seeds and nuts are such a concentrated source and I don't do well with them, either;-(.. I have been nearsighted since about 3rd grade and all raw for nearly 7 years now, yet my eyesight is still slowly getting worse, so I don't have all the answers either. - --Are you consuming lots of sprouts and seeds and nuts? >Can anyone direct me to "official" info on how long it takes for vegetable (carrot/green) juice to oxidize? I don't know of any "official" figures. They would be meaningless anyway, as the rate of oxidation will depend on how the juice was made (which juicer), how fresh the raw materials were when they were juiced, and the storage temperature and oxygen exposure in the storage container (a full container would last longer than a half full one). --Dr. Malkmus peels his carrots before juicing, and I suspect that makes a huge difference, whereas according to some "authorities" not cleaning the carrots, etc, provides vegans the bacteria they need for their bodies to build B12? You can usually tell by taste whether it has appreciably spoiled. With the Acme juicer, I've found carrot/beet/green mixtures to spoil in a couple days in the fridge. - --"Green," according to Dr. David Scott, noted scientist/DC/Natural Hygiene physician, oxidizes far faster than carrot juice (because it doesn't have the natural sugar content which acts as a sort of preservative, therefore cannot be stored very long. - --Meanwhile, Dr. Max Gerson's, famed cancer therapy, advocates juicing about a 1/2 an apple with each glass of carrot juice, as the carrot has synergizing compounds that helps the body absorb the nutrients in carrot or "green" juice. - --Previous to the Gerson Training I took a few years ago, I refrained from adding apple as I thought it would add too much unnecessary "sugar." Now I use it regularly and find some "odd" people who find regular carrot juice too bland, enjoy it much more with the apple juice included. With added vitamin C crystals (1/4 tsp or 1 gram per pint of juice), the taste doesn't change for about a week. I used to routinely add vitamin C powder to fresh juices as a preservative when I was drinking juice regularly. - --I'm not familiar with the vitamin C crystals. Is this "allowed" in a raw diet????;-) >A man who's concerned he's wasting his time going to the effort of juicing the night before if much of the nutritional value is lost, wants not >"heresay" but "official" scientific data. The "waste" is more than compensated by the increased concentration of nutrients. You can drink a lot more carrots or other vegetables than you can eat. Whole vegetables also lose nutrients in storage, BTW. --Good points. David, >My last long fast was 16 days aproximately ten years ago. I have done >some two day fasts since then. Hope this is what you were interested >in. Is this because you no longer feel the need to fast or some other reason? Paul Bragg took 10-day fasts 4 times a year during his adult life as preventive "medicine." I myself am trying to do 2 fasts a year, but I still have rejuvenative work to do, not just preventive maintenance. - --According to fasting physician Dr. Alan Goldhammer, fasting is a "last resort" but unfortunately few people take the care it needs to avoid it for optimal health. Course I don't see how one can live "hygienically" because of the many things outside one's control: ie., fuel emissions, high voltage wires, plants, etc. Tom, >Hey, since I've gone raw (about 6 weks now), I've found that I no longer >bite my fingernails. This is the first time in most of my life where I've >had all my nails. Anyone else have something like this happen to them, or >am I just a weirdo? ;>) We're fellow weirdos, Tom. Ever since mid-20's I've had an uncontrollable "picking at the cuticles until the skin is a bloody mess" habit. On raw, this habit vanishes for various periods of time, but tends to come back (in a milder form) when I eat too much protein. Perhaps this nervous habit is a way the body forces itself to use up excess protein consumption (rebuilding tissue). I suppose being calmer and less nervous overall has something to do with it too. - --Personally, I think too much protein in the form of sprouts, seeds, nuts, etc., and not enough calming greens, has much to do with that. Bob Avery (RWAvery@vegetarians.com) - --Great contributions, Bob;-) Gerry >> - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:46:05 -0400 From: "Robert Ratliff" Subject: RE: bio Do a search for Colloidal Silver. It kills germs and bacteria. It should take the place of the antibiotic. It is much cheaper to make yourself. Join the silver-list. The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-request@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-request@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratliff@iname.com - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:04:30 EDT From: Angels3x@aol.com Subject: Re: Meanness is a perversion. In a message dated 9/22/99 11:07:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, queshaw@pacbell.net writes: << 5. Now there is the very painful situation of people trying to believe (and force others to believe) in the old images of what is sacred after it has been shattered. So, they become defensive and viscious. Now the activity of the day is to cancel out and explode. So, I think it's not meanness but alienation that is really obvious these days. >> Hi Kendall, I have been reading some of your statements and it looks like you do some philosophical thinking. Or thinking period, because there is not much thinking these days and the result is -- "we can become defensive and viscous." Or are we also loosing our guidelines for life? Do we have a reference or do we just act out of our emotions and feelings? What do we go by -- what the authorities tell us? What is the truth, is it all relative or is there some absolutes? What is the answer? In God's love - Peter from Md - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:03:57 EDT From: Angels3x@aol.com Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? In a message dated 9/23/99 11:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, davidn@axion.net writes: << Why does he have to juice it the night before? Juicing is processing, which alters the organizing energies of the food. >> Hi David in BC, You do have interesting comments about juicing. It is great to share what each has found out for himself. You also know how some feel, while it is not quite natural to have juice, but it seems to give the large amounts of nutrients in the quickest way? Specially if you have some sickness, what you think about that? God's love to you, Peter from Md. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:19:38 EDT From: Angels3x@aol.com Subject: Re: juicing, etc. In a message dated 9/24/99 12:44:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, GMCoffey@aol.com writes: << -When I refer to greens, I usually mean Romaine and/or broccoli, and certainly not powered. BTW, Bob, do you use the Barley Green that has no additives? I am curious about that and would like to know more, and possibly how to order, if you have that info. >> Hi Gerry, I see an again interesting points being made, On Barley Green, as you know, AIM distributors say that according to Dr. Yoshihide Hagiwara, the additives are necessary for patented process - otherwise the powdered juice will very rapidly oxidize, that supposedly makes other processes not that effective? I have used these other products - Just Barley, Green Kamut - they say: 100% juice, No fillers, binders, starches or dextrines - You can reach them at 800 - - 452 - 6884. in CA (I think that they are still in business). The problem is that everybody says that their product is the best? Only problem I had that the powder is little harder to mix (very light) and according "experts" nutritional value does not stay around?? So far I have been going with Dr.Y.Hagiwara's research. God's love, Peter in Maryland - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:24:20 -0700 From: "Davey" Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? Hi Peter, I think that raw juice is fine, but I prefer to consume it right away after making it. That's not to say that I always can. There is a new raw juice company that's started up in Vancouver, Happy Planet, and they are doing quite well. There are also a lot of juice bars around now, where you can get the stuff fresh juiced on the spot (some even use organic produce!). It's encouraging to see that the larger population is starting to value raw food, even if it sits in the fridge for awhile, it's going to be way better than the pasturized and bottled sugar-water that most people drink. Thanks for your coments. David. Vancouver, BC P.S. Gee maybe it's time to dust off my Champion. - -----Original Message----- From: Angels3x@aol.com To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Scientific Documentation on Juice Oxidation? >In a message dated 9/23/99 11:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >davidn@axion.net writes: > ><< Why does he have to juice it the night before? Juicing is processing, >which > alters the organizing energies of the food. > >> >Hi David in BC, >You do have interesting comments about juicing. It is great to share what >each has found out for himself. >You also know how some feel, while it is not quite natural to have juice, but >it seems to give the large amounts of nutrients in the quickest way? >Specially if you have some sickness, what you think about that? >God's love to you, >Peter from Md. > > >--- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html >to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com >with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife > - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 12:51:55 EDT From: BARBSKEE@aol.com Subject: checking in Hello Everyone-Just checking in to say that I have been raw since mid-August and eveything is changing. I woke up feeling fluish on Monday so an old time Natural Hygiene friend suggested I fast. I had a colonic treatment scheduled (first ever) that day that I went to and a massage. I fasted 2 days and still felt terrible-chills, sniffles, respiratory difficulty. I broke the fast on day 3. My mind would not leave me alone!! It kept thinking about FOOD and woundn't stop! I have been staying in bed because symptoms got worse.This is the first time I haven't taken any medicine for them, though!! The amazing thing is that I have lost about 10lbs. I have no idea if it will stay off but at least something is moving which is a tremendous change that I have been hoping for. I have been overweight for years as a result of overeating, rheumatoid arthritis and depression resulting in endless joint and muscle problems. Already, most of the arthritic symptoms are gone! As is my snorring! I suppose I am going through a kind of detox. But it's been a long time since I've been this sick. Thanks for all the great info. I am committed to this way of living and the more I read the more I deeply believe it is the answer to solving my long term health problems. Barbara from Santa Cruz, Ca. - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:10:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ahuvyah Subject: Aris La Tham Hi, I pray this email finds you in the best of spirits and health. I wanted to make sure I that I sent this information to our raw community. Aris La Tham, Gourmet Raw Foods Chef, will be in DC on Oct. 10 for a one day intensive (6 hour) workshop on health and raw food preparation. I am really excited about this because he is moving to Tanzania in December and he will not be teaching anymore (sad face) So, this is for all you veteran raw foodist, and for us "raw babies" Please come out and give Aris a wonderful farewell. The Basics: Everlasting Life Health Complex Date: Oct. 10. 1999 Time: 2pm -7pm Cost: $30.00 For more information please call Ahuvyah at 202-291-9244 or 202-232-1700 (anyone at the store can help you) or email me at ahuvyah@yahoo.com It's going to be great I look forward to seeing you. Ahuvyah - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:41:34 -0400 From: Fruitvibes@aol.com Subject: [none] by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id kBFG0Y.l_4 (3956) for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <587e794a.251bcf19@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:44:41 EDT Subject: fruitarian site To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Sender: owner-rawlife@rawtimes.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rawlife@rawtimes.com Hi, just thought i'd let you know about our fruitarian site www.fruitarianvibes.com the site is 100% fruitarian content, and will help anyone transition to a fruitarian diet. Also we have information on our newsletter, audio cassette series and great new book - --- RAWLIFE- faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife ------------------------------ End of rawlife-digest V1 #40 **************************** --- RAWLIFE-DIGEST - faq at http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlife.html to (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@rawtimes.com with the body of the email: (un)subscribe rawlife-digest