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rawlife-digest      Tuesday, September 24 2002      Volume 01 : Number 1072




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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: IINPortOrchard@webtv.net (Judith Herman)
Subject: Re: [rawlife] weight update / popcorn question

Hi Jay, Congratulations on your weight loss. I have a theory that the
body has to tear everything down, before it builds your body back up
with healthy material. I have a person I email with that went down to
113 pounds before his body started rebuild itself. He is now a very
healthy weight and I don't think he's eating any differently. So hang in
there and your body will respond to the good things you are doing for
yourself. Weight lifting and that type of thing is very good thinking on
your part. Trust your appetite, if you stay in tune with what you need
you will know. Of course I don't claim to be an expert on the subject,
I've only been doing this since February of 2000. Unfortunately I got
side tracked until I found a scarey lump where it shouldn't be, and of
course I went back to raw eating immediately. It only took 3 days to
shrink it but it woke me up. So I'm just saying keep up the good work,
spouses that are not doing the raw thing too don't understand, including
my husband who thinks I'm nuts. I'm not sure about the popcorn, maybe
someone else can answer that for you.   Judy


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 19:01:50 -0400
From: Bob Avery <rwavery@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] weight update / popcorn question

Jay,

>What I would like to
>do is make some muscle out of the fat I have left and continue my
journey of
>getting in better shape.

Time to start tossing those barbells around, I guess.  You aren't likely
to do it by diet alone.

>What bothers
>me, though, is now I find myself eating even less because I'm not really
>hungry, and I'm at a point that if I lose too much more weight it is
going
>to cause some problems for me.

Muscle weighs more than fat, so concentrate on building muscle.  You can
always add fat by eating more, but as you wisely observe, that's not the
optimal way to add weight.

>I was in contact with someone that does colonics, and this person told
me
>that popcorn will stay in the colon for seven years after it was eaten.
I
>must admit that this sounds a little far fetched to me...but my wife
thought
>it was insane and seems to be using this as ammunition that I'm nuts for
>some of the stuff I'm doing. Is there anything scientific about this
claim?

Your wife probably right.  (:-)

Great post!

Bob Avery

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:45:00 -0400
From: JR Ellis <jrellis@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] weight update / popcorn question

dear jay
congrats on your successes

At 06:19 PM 9/23/02 -0500, jay wrote:
>Anybody else care to throw in their two cents?

first of all, that expression about throwing in 2 cents -
that is a very old expression
and time has distorted it
you see 2 cents was worth a lot more when it started
for 2 cents you could buy a towel
and the expression was similar to throwing in the towel
however in this case, it was like raising a white flag and giving up
so the expression throw in your two cents
was a way of saying
i give up, i will go along
when you throw in your two cents
you are really saying what most people will accept
i know that doesn't sound so good
but its the best lie i could come up with
i will work on it

now as far as popcorn is concerned
let me throw my 2 cents in
i am an expert on popcorn, naturally
not chemically
but i am very in touch with what popcorn does to me
because i like popcorn, and have eaten it in various stages of raw
i broke my year raw with popcorn
it is a weakness of mine
because it is the social food
i hate being at a movie theatre and hearing other people eat when i am not 
eating
of course, the smell of putrified imitation butter has become a bad part of 
movies
nevertheless, i have eaten popcorn after various lengths of being raw
and i don't know why this is true
i can think of many rationals
but popcorn has got to be one of the unhealthiest foods around
it is one of the most sickening of the vegan foods
even hot air popcorn
or maybe it is just me
maybe i am allergic to popcorn
like i am allergic to hagen daz, potato chips, and big macs
this defective body of mine was not made for modern civilization and culture

i also don't know about the colonic rap
the idea is that there is a thickening layer that builds up over years
i assume from what you have said
that popcorn is a likely component of this petrified forest
i have heard eyewitnesses describe this effect
and i have heard eyewitness dispute it
i have seen
through clear tubes
what was described as my buildup
and i have noticed that these types of substances are predictable
they can become more noticeable after a series of colonics
and then become less noticeable
even after month lapses in colonics

and in summary
who knows
its all interesting
the only thing that is real
is the improvement in your quality of life
and therefore ours
thank you for enriching us all

love,
betaman



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:18:59 -0400
From: "Tom Tolman" <ttolman@maine.rr.com>
Subject: [rawlife] minerals

I just saw an email re: David Wolfe's mineral program containing ten =
different Angstrom sized Minerals in purified ionic water (Zinc, =
Selenium, Germanium, Silver, Chromium, Magnesium, Calcium, Gold, Copper, =
Sulfur).Cost is $150.00 for the kit.  I'd like to know if anyone is =
using minerals to supplement their raw diet.  Also any harm in taking =
minerals of this sort?  Thanks in advance for any feedback.  Katie


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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:43:45 -0400
From: JR Ellis <jrellis@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] minerals

At 08:18 PM 9/23/02 -0400, Tom wrote:
>re: David Wolfe's mineral program ...Cost is $150.00...
>I'd like to know ...

on one hand, i am currently slightly obsessed with mineral deficiencies and 
alkalizing my blood
i am drinking expensive water right now

on the other hand, i am extremely suspicious of all claims, offers, and 
products to this effect
there is so much out there
who knows what is effective or even what is authentic
you can try it and see if it resonates with you
and i hate to say this
but i can't stop myself (i am out of control):

i would absolutely not buy anything from the sources like you have described
without independently verifying the results and the products from 
corroborating reliable sources
nuff said

love
jrellis
managing editor of rawtimes good housekeeping and rawtimes consumer reports



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 22:07:12 -0400
From: Bob Avery <rwavery@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] minerals

Katie,

>Also any harm in taking minerals of this sort?  Thanks in advance for
any feedback.  Katie
 
Doesn't sound very natural to me -- or friendly to your wallet either.

jr,

>who knows what is effective or even what is authentic
>you can try it and see if it resonates with you
>and i hate to say this
>but i can't stop myself (i am out of control):

Personally, I rely on seaweed or bee pollen for that occasional mineral
boost.

Bob Avery

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 01:14:51 -0400
From: tom cushwa <cushwa@panix.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] minerals

on 9/23/02 10:07 PM, Bob Avery at rwavery@juno.com wrote:

> Personally, I rely on seaweed or bee pollen for that occasional mineral
> boost.
> 
> Bob Avery


Hi Bob, I was wondering what minerals are in bee pollen? And how do you know
you need an occasional mineral boost. Is it just a feeling or is it
something more defined. -tom


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:04:53 -0400
From: JR Ellis <betaman@rawtimes.com>
Subject: [rawlife] protein 

>Rose wrote:
>Last two months am dealing with a serious kidney infection due to candida.
>Am very limited with what I can tolerate. Eating mostly raw, organic
>veggies. Tried making blender mixes, got quite sick. It seems its too
>concentrated. Anyway, what can I eat for protein?

i think that your concern for protein is misplaced
it presupposes that you can know what proteins you need, what amounts and 
in what combinations
it presupposes that your rational mind should dictate your nutritional 
absorptions
it is my contention that too much protein is the single greatest 
nutritional excess

with an all raw diet
assuming that you are exposed to a variety of foods and permit yourself to 
experience them
your diet will take care of itself

if you trust your instincts and act accordingly
while they may be generalizations for supplements to treat symptoms
it is not the most promising path i choose to find

if you want nutritional advice,
like what to structure your diet with
then i think you are looking in the wrong place
if you want advice on how to find what is right for you by looking inside
then this might be the right place
the optimal choice for foods is different for everybody
each day

any one that prescribes a specific diet for you
including which food and how much
is overcharging
but then, thats just my opinion

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dear bob
last year for 3 months
i lived on water, juice, seaweed and bee pollen
this year i have a different plan
will keep you posted
nevertheless
i was happy with the seaweed and pollen
they both tasted heaven

love
jrellis


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Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:16:00 -0400
From: Jo <music@jo.yoshida.name>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] Canistel fruit

 >Bob,
 >
 >I think you were referring to eggfruit (canistel) not santol? Would
 >you describe
 >eggfruit flesh as "mealy"? Pleasant texture or unpleasant? Many thanks.
 >
 >Here is link to some info and a small photo of cansistels on the tree
 >http://capetrib.com.au/canistel.htm

Hi Greg - I think Bob described it well - a mix between a hard-boiled
egg yolk and yam. It's a very savory fruit, easy to eat and really
delicious in my opinion. The inferior varieties leave a latex-like
scum in your mouth. Or it could be the unripened fruit that exhibits
this attribute? I can't remember which but I know I've experienced it
once or twice.

When your trees bear fruit, you're in for a great taste-sensation!

Cheers,
Jo


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Date: 22 Sep 2002 20:32:34 -0000
From: "Nature's First Law" <thor@rawfood.com>
Subject: [rawlife] David Wolfe's Mineral Program Now Available!

David Wolfe's Mineral Program is now available!  Here are the
details:

David Wolfe's Mineral Intake Program -- Ten different Angstrom-
sized Minerals in purified ionic water in 2-oz. glass bottles
with glass droppers - Zinc, Selenium, Germanium, Silver,
Chromium, Magnesium, Calcium, Gold, Copper, Sulfur. This is a
universal program that is designed to appeal to all body types,
ethnic groups, blood groups, etc. This program is used in
conjunction with one's diet and supplement program. All of these
minerals supercede other mineral supplements. Other mineral
supplements may be continued for optimal results, especially
Nature's First Food, Nature's First Law Bee Pollen, and MSM
(methyl-sulfonyl-methane). As with anything, listen to your
inner wisdom--if a mineral strongly disagrees with you,
discontinue its use.

Morning (before food):
Zinc (2-4 droppers)
Selenium (1 dropper)
Germanium (1/2 to 1 dropper)
Silver (2-4 droppers)

30 minutes before lunch:
Chromium (1-2 droppers)
Magnesium (2-4 droppers)
Calcium (1-2 droppers)

Just before bed in the evening:
Gold (1 dropper)
Copper (1 dropper)
Sulfur (1-2 droppers)

What each mineral does:

Zinc eliminates body odor, helps protects the teeth, helps to
eliminate bad breath, restores enzyme function of the immune
system and skin, strongly fights viruses, protects the nervous
system. All food in the US has been deficient in zinc since the
1950s. Zinc is antagonistic to copper and should done separately
from copper (preferably on the other side of the day).

Signs of a zinc deficiency:
Body odor, bad breath, poor skin, weak immune system, chronic
viral infections, nerve damage or nerve disease.

Selenium is an powerful antioxidant. Research shows that it
inhibits cancer rates by up to 42%, making it the most promising
anti-cancer mineral (substance) yet discovered. Selenium
protects the cell from cancer and viral damage. All food in the
US has been deficient in selenium since the 1950s.

Signs of a selenium deficiency:
Cancer, viral infections, DNA damage. The entire US population
is deficient in selenium.

Germanium protects the nucleus of the cell from viral and cancer
damage. Protects the valves that separate the five sections of
the gastro-intestinal tract. Germanium is a rare trace mineral
found primarily in mushrooms.

Signs of a germanium deficiency:
Cancer, viral infections, DNA damage, Gastro-intestinal
disorders.

Silver destroys every virus known on contact. Destroys harmful
fungus and bacteria while keeping healthy tissue and good
bacteria intact. Protects the nervous system from viruses and
bacteria. Much has been written, discovered, and experienced
about colloidal silver being the world's most powerful
antibiotic. Angstrom silver is a million times smaller than
colloidal silver and thus is more effective without side effects
(colloidal silver can get gummed up in the tissues and skin).

Chromium balances blood sugar, helps the pancreas to produce the
proper levels of insulin. Chromium is zapped out of our bodies
in our youth as a result of eating starchy demineralized foods
and refined sugar. Most chromium deficiencies are chronic. Other
than magnesium, chromium is the most deficient mineral in the
cooked civilization diet.

Signs of a chromium deficiency:
Hypoglycemia, moodiness, late afternoon blood sugar crashes,
diabetes.

Magnesium relaxes muscles, builds bone, causes strong
peristalsis, increases flexibility, increases alkalinity. Found
at the center of the chlorophyll molecule, magnesium is the most
deficient mineral in the cooked civilization diet. Magnesium, as
a primary alkaline mineral, opens up over 300 different
elimination pathways. Magnesium can be biologically transmutated
into calcium.

Signs of a magnesium deficiency:
Constipation, hyperacidity, inflexibility of muscles, muscle
spasms, osteoporosis.

Calcium relaxes muscles and the digestive system, builds bone,
neutralizes acidity, exports toxins out of the cell and blood
stream. Calcium works synergistically with magnesium. It should
be taken in a ratio of 2 parts magnesium to 1 part calcium.

Signs of a calcium deficiency:
Hyperacidity, tissue toxicity.

Gold is a mystical platinum-group mineral. It has the highest
frequency of the platinum-group elements. Researchers are just
beginning to understand the role of angstrom-sized gold in
nutrition. It seems to have a wide-range of properties,
including: calming the nervous system, increasing lucid
dreaming, balancing the endocrine and glandular system,
protecting the DNA from free radicals, cancer, and viral damage,
increasing the strength of the immune system, and improving
intelligence.

Copper is a de-wormer and destroyer of macro-parasites. Copper
cleanses the lymphatic system, assists with stimulating
peristalsis, and strengthens the immune system. Copper is
usually found bound up in the vitamin C complex in plants. Food
grown agriculturally in the western world today is deficient in
copper. Copper is a very strong mineral and doses should be kept
at 1 dropper (ml). Copper is antagonistic to zinc and should
done separately from zinc (preferably on the other side of the
day).

Signs of  a copper deficiency:
Spleen insufficiency, weak immune system, worms, other parasite
infections.

Sulfur is the number one beauty mineral. It is the number one
mineral in the skin, hair, nails, liver, and pancreas. Sulfur
potentiates all other minerals allowing them to be absorbed and
utilized more efficiently. Sulfur creates permeability. It works
synergistically with vitamin C to create the super-protein
collagen. Sulfur helps alleviate wrinkles, and skin damage,
including scarring. Sulfur helps repair injured joints, tendons,
ligaments, and connective tissue. Sulfur helps build sulfur-
bearing amino acids which detoxify the liver, nourish the hair
and skin, and build flexible muscle. Angstrom-sized sulfur is as
or more biologically available than MSM (methyl-sulfonyl-
methane). Sulfur is found in rainwater and plants dependent on
rain water for survival. Many foods are grown agriculturally and
in greenhouses and thus are deficient in sulfur.

Signs of a sulfur deficiency:
Weak nails, brittle hair, leathery organs, tissue, and skin,
wrinkles, scars, joint inflammation, connective tissue damage,
poor skin quality, liver stagnation, liver disease, insulin/
blood sugar challenges, protein deficiency.

Please see the following website for detailed information on
Angstrom-sized Minerals and David Wolfe's Mineral Intake
Program.

http://www.rawfood.com/angstromminerals.html

$150.00

Order David Wolfe's Mineral Program online at:

http://www.rawfood.com

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Ladendorf <paulldndrf@yahoo.com>
Subject: [rawlife] Fwd: Fw: Dr Seuss and computers

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Subject: Fwd: Fw: Dr Seuss and computers
To: sunshinelover4ya@yahoo.com, dykiel@netnitco.net,
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paulldndrf@yahoo.com, martin@mail.icongrp, msmills@covad.net,
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> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 From: "Carole" 
To: "linda lutrell" ,
"Herbie j. Scheidler" ,
"betty jordon" ,
"AlKnecht" ,
"Beverly Anderson-Fried" ,
"Stoltz, Nancy" ,
"masrws" ,
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"rock effron" ,
"Joyce@Ed Smith" , "Eric" ,
"Holly Handley" ,
"MaryAnn Coppock" ,
"Peggy Stamm" 
,
"Barbara@Gerry Bougher" ,
"Deb Eugene Klara" 
Subject: Fw: Dr Seuss and computers
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 13:58:49 -0500

GOOD, CAROLE----- Original Message ----- From: NBM33@aol.com To: NBM33@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:41 PMSubject: Dr Seuss and computers


Dr. Seuss Explains Why Computers Sometimes Crash

(Read this aloud, if you can!)

If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted at a very last resort, and the access of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report.

If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, and your data is corrupted cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!!

If the label on the cable on the table at your house says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, but your packets want to tunnel to another protocol, that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, and your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss, so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse; then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang, 'cuz sure as I'm a poet, the sucker's gonna hang!

When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy in the disk, and the macro code instructions cause unnecessary risk, then you'll have to flash the memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM.

Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your Mom!












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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE">Dr. Seuss Explains Why Computers Sometimes Crash<BR><BR>(Read this aloud, if you can!)<BR><BR>If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, and the bus is interrupted at a very last resort, and the access of the memory makes your floppy disk abort, then the socket packet pocket has an error to report.<BR><BR>If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, and the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, and your data is corrupted cause the index doesn't hash, then your situation's hopeless and your system's gonna crash!!<BR><BR>If the label on the cable on the table at your house says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, but your packets want to tunnel to another protocol, that's repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, and your screen is all distorted by the side effects of gauss, so your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse; then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang, 'cuz sure as I'm a poet!
, the sucker's gonna hang!<BR><BR>When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy in the disk, and the macro code instructions cause unnecessary risk, then you'll have to flash the memory and you'll want to RAM your ROM.<BR><BR>Quickly turn off the computer and be sure to tell your Mom!<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Verdana color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:40:21 -0500
From: rosaaddison@appliedct.com
Subject: RE: [rawlife] weight update / popcorn question

Hello Jay:

Read your story this morning.  Sounds real good.  Question...are you
in any type of exercise program?   Weight training is very good for
gaining muscle mass.  If you are not doing so, why not look into it.
It would not hurt.

Rosa


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Ladendorf <paulldndrf@yahoo.com>
Subject: [rawlife] Oops! Disregard Dr. Seuss Spam

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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:29:52 -0500
From: "Jay Banks" <jbanks@vitaminb17.org>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] weight update / popcorn question

> Hello Jay:
> 
> Read your story this morning.  Sounds real good.  Question...are you
> in any type of exercise program?   Weight training is very good for
> gaining muscle mass.  If you are not doing so, why not look into it.
> It would not hurt.
> 
> Rosa

Rosa (and Bob, who I think suggested the same thing),

On 11-2-01 I ordered the Power 90 in-home boot camp
from www.beachbody.com. I made just about 90 days
of doing it exactly the way it is supposed to be done.
I did tone up, but I didn't get anywhere near the results
they show on the beachbody website. Still, I'm not
disappointed because I think it is an excellent program
that works you head to toe in approx. 45 minutes, six
days a week (if you do it the way they say to do it).

After the approx. 90 days, I took off for week or so
and then started it again, only this time I skipped
the cardio side and just did the weight lifting tape every
other day. On the day I was supposed to do cardio,
I just did the Power ABs workout (7 minutes). I
also supplemented other cardio on these days from
time to time, such as bike riding, boxing, jumping rope, 
etc.

My arms have gained the most muscle and are 
actually kind of nice looking now. The rest of me didn't 
do so good, but the AB workout is making some
difference.

My theory is that a lot of the pictures on beachbody.com
are of people who were in good shape at one time. If
you have ever been in good shape it is easier to get
back into shape. I have been in somewhat OK cardio 
shape before, but have *never* done much of any weight
lifting. I also think a lot of the pictures on beachbody are
people who bulked up using supplements and protein
shakes. Well, that's just not for me, so I skipped all
of that mess.

Anyway, the bottom line is that I feel I got my money's
worth from the Power 90. But doing it for going on a
year now, I didn't get the results that they are showing
some people got in 90 days (keep in mind, I didn't
do it to the "T" after the first 90 days were up, too).

I was in pretty sad shape when I started, though...

Jay


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:54:07 -0500
From: "Jay Banks" <jbanks@vitaminb17.org>
Subject: [rawlife] Re:  popcorn question & colons

(I'm at work so I can't quote some of the stuff JR said).


I agree with the conflicting information on impacted
colons. If you try to find any real scientific studies
on the Net -- not that "real" studies mean anything --
almost every single thing pulled up comes from
sites connected with doing colonics or selling some
type of colon cleanse, which makes them a little
biased in my opinion.

Here is one site that I found that talks a little about
this subject as it pertains to John Wayne and Elvis:

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/fecal.htm

From the autopsy on Elvis:

   The colon is approximately five to seven feet in 
   length in a person Elvis's size and should have 
   been about two inches in diameter . . . however,
   Elvis's colon was at least three and a half inches 
   in diameter in some places and as large as four 
   and half to five inches in diameter in others .
   . . [T]he megacolon was jam-packed from the 
   base of the descending colon all the way up and 
   halfway across the transverse colon. It was filled with
   white, chalklike fecal material.

This was blamed, at least on this web site, more
from his drug use than his diet. However, in my
opinion, huge amounts of American's abuse
drugs of some sort...and eat just like Elvis did.

According to Rev. Malkmus, laxatives are the
number one selling over-the-counter drug.

Really makes you wonder?

Jay







 


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:37:13 -0400
From: dori_joy@juno.com
Subject: [rawlife] Re:Dehydrator

Dori Joy here wondering if anyone out there has a used Excalibur
Dehydrator that they would like to sell.  Please let me know.  Thank you
Dori Joy


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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:19:59 EDT
From: TROMPAJO@aol.com
Subject: [rawlife] Plastic Water Bottles

    Plastic water bottles were recently being discussed here, and Bob Avery 
wrote: "Some are pretty good; others very bad. The clearer they are, the 
tighter the weave, and less likely to leach. They always use the very clear 
ones for soft drinks, I think because the poor quality ones would just 
dissolve in the acids. By cloudy, I'm referring to the ones that are hard to 
see through, like milk jugs."

    Peter wrote: " ...an alternative doctor reported on the dangers of all 
plastic bottles and containers. Only #1 and #2 on the bottle or container 
supposedly is acceptable for distilled water or food. The number is inside a 
small triangle. Most people never knew about the numbers."

    I have some of the cloudy (soft plastic) gallon jugs of distilled water, 
and the number in the triangle on the bottom is 2.

    I agree with Bob that these are the least desirable containers to use, so 
I'm wondering if the doctor Peter mentioned meant to say that #1 and #2 are 
the *least* acceptable. 

    I really believe that's the case (or else the doctor was just plain 
mistaken), because I bought a little half gallon empty water jug at the HFS 
last night, that's made of clear polycarbonate. On the label it says: 
Glass-like, non-porous material * Odorless, no plastic taste * The premier 
bottle * No plastic or dioxine leaching * Durable, no heat or cold distortion 
* #7 RECYCLE CODE ON BOTTOM IS YOUR GUARANTEE (caps mine, for emphasis).

    From that, I would assume the higher the number in the triangle, the 
better.

    While doing a search for polycarbonate, I came across this bit of 
information:

<< Paul H. Peterman, Carl E. Orazio, and Robert W. Gale, Columbia 
Environmental Research Center, US Geological Survey, 4200 New Haven Road, 
Columbia, MO 65201
(Note:  This abstract pertains especially to 5-gallon reusable plastic water 
containers)

Bisphenol A (BPA) is a monomer used to manufacture polycarbonate materials 
and is an endocrine disrupting compound that binds to estrogen receptors. 
While investigating the potential for BPA to passively leach from various 
plastic containers into water, brominated phenolics were identified. Each 1-L 
water sample was spiked with a surrogate, 13C-BPA, at 1000 ng before 
extraction with dichloromethane (pH 2) and full-scan GC/MS analyses. Native 
tetrabromobisphenol A and brominated derivatives of the 13C-BPA surrogate 
were detected in several different 5-gallon polycarbonate containers. 
Usually, tetrabromo-13C-BPA was found in the highest concentrations followed 
by tri-13C-BPA, di-13C-BPA, and finally mono-13C-BPA. The degree of 
bromination increased with the elapsed time between spiking and extraction. 
Very little of the 13C-BPA surrogate itself was detected.

Bromine with ozone is often used to sanitize used polycarbonate containers 
before refilling with drinking water. Tetrabromobisphenol A is suspected to 
be a potent endocrine disrupting compound affecting thyroid hormones. >>

    The last paragraph makes me wonder what they use to sanitize *glass* 
bottles. Looks like the only way to be sure we're drinking clean, safe water 
would be to buy glass containers, clean them ourselves, and use them to store 
water we've distilled or purified ourselves.

    Comments, anyone?

    Ronn 


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