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rawlife-digest       Monday, September 16 2002       Volume 01 : Number 1065




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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: IINPortOrchard@webtv.net (Judith Herman)
Subject: Re: [rawlife] fibromyalgia

Thank you it was me. I forwarded it to my friend, who is hooked on
doctors so she will print it and show it to him. I appreciate that you
sent it, I only hope she uses it.  Judy


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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 15:10:58 -0400
From: Bob Avery <rwavery@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] re: Flax seed oil / toxins in sprouts (and flax seed?)

Greg,

>Again dosage is surely a factor, whilst I agree cyanide in certain low
levels
>may indeed have health properties, that beneficial effect may completely
change
>if the dose is taken in excess of what the body can handle.

Another problem is that this apricot kernel thing sounds too much like
medicine.  Chemotherapy "works," when it appears to, by poisoning all of
your body's cells, but the cancer cells are more fragile, and they die
off first.  Since this poisoning effect only addresses the immediate
symptoms and not the lifestyle root causes that brought about the cancer,
the effect is limited to short term results.  I fear the use of cyanide
in apricot pits is the same sort of chemotherapy-like thing.  It poisons
the whole body in order to nuke the cancer and fails to do anything at
all to address the root causes of the disease.

>But again in case you get the incorrect impression, I'm saying as long
as
>the intake is matched by the bodies ability to detoxify then no real
drama...
>it's when intake of toxins is higher than the bodies ability to handle
them that
>problems develop.. 

I agree with you.  Dr. Herbert Shelton said the exact same thing when
referring to oxalic acid, which is present to some degree in just about
all produce.  The way he put it was that the body has enzymes sufficient
to METABOLIZE (i.e., digest and utilize nutritively) small amounts of
oxalic acid, but when that capacity is overwhelmed, toxic poisoning
ensues.  And the amount of oxalic acide metabolizable will vary from
person to person or within the same person from time to time.

I know that I cannot eat spinach within the first week after a long fast.
 It tears my mouth and throat up and irritates the whole digestive tract.
 But when I am eating normally, I can eat a whole bunch of spinach (1 lb
or more) with no such effects.

>and what that exact intake amount is I can't say.. it would
>depend on many factors, the ripeness of the plant, the variety of the
plant, the
>climate and season and the soil in which the plant is grown in, the
harvesting
>maturity of that plant, the rainfall and irrigation quantities for the
plant,
>all these things and more can affect the levels of toxins in the food.. 

And the present capabilities and genetic inheritance of the organism
eating it.  There are plenty of examples of plants that are staple foods
for one species and deadly toxic to other species.

>That sounds okay to me.. but again dosage is a prime factor here,
animals in the
>wild no doubt ingest significant quantities of toxins from their foods
but
>they're also intune with their bodies and when they've ingested too much
of a
>particular plant toxin they lose desire to eat that particular food and
turn to
>others.. 

Perhaps they are not toxins at all in quantities eaten, but nutrients. 
If you can metabolize it and use the byproducts for growth, repair,
and/or energy, then it is food to whatever degree that is possible.  It
is only a toxin if it cannot be so used because it is eaten to excess or
because it cannot be eaten at all.

>Yes there are real plant food toxins which people should be aware of and
take
>into consideration in their diet,

For example, you wouldn't want to make a meal out of raw rhubarb or
sprouted red kidney beans.  (:-)

And there may be much better ways to heal cancer than any amount of
apricot pits.

> it's good to
>listen and learn and be informed by what certain sources say about our
foods,
>however the acid test is, how does your own body actually react to those
said
>foods? If it reacts splendidly then this indicates the food is good for
us... if
>on the other hand our own body reacts in a subtle or not so subtle
negative way
>then this indicates that food is creating problems for us.

Amen.

> it sounded really really good, just what i needed.. but when I actually
>got down to eating sprouted and non-sprouted millets the bubble burst
when i
>realized my body just didn't like the food... nope, it just didn't like
it...

Rather tasteless to chew and much comes out intact at the other end, I
found when trying the same thing with soaked/sprouted raw millet.  OK in
a famine, I suppose.

>I ate freshly ground whole flax seeds for a while thinking I was doing
the right
>thing, but it soon dawned on me my body was reacting negatively to it...
so I
>had to leave it alone which I did.

Do you remember what the symptoms were?

Bob Avery

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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 07:47:22 -0700
From: "Hal R. Haley" <hhaley@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] fibromyalgia

Mark,

>  There are many different techniques that can be used here, but EFT is my
> current favorite.
>
> NST is also another powerful tool

Do you know what EFT and NST are?

Hal


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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:03:04 -0700
From: "Hal R. Haley" <hhaley@cox.net>
Subject: [rawlife] Earthbox

Ronn,

I purchased an Earthbox recently, after keeping your post in my mind for many
weeks.  My idea was that I could grow tomatoes deep into our mild winter here in
SoCal.  I two weeks, the tomato plants have tripled in size, and are extremely
healthy looking.  There seems to be something powerful about the constant
moisture level.  I'll follow up in another month or so, perhaps with a link to a
photo.

Anyone interested should check out this link:

http://www.earthbox.com/

Hal


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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:40:01 -0500
From: "Jay Banks" <jbanks@vitaminb17.org>
Subject: [rawlife] re: Toxins In Food and Cyanide

Dr. Halstead then took the stand. He carried with him a book which he put in
his lap. Under direct questioning from Mr. Coe, Dr. Halstead explained how
all substances known to man can be toxic. He showed that while some oxygen
is necessary to maintain life, too much oxygen can be fatal. He went through
the same procedure with water, salt, and other substances. He then showed
that aspirin, sugar and salt were, milligram-for-milligram, more toxic than
Laetrile [A concentrated form of a substance found in many wild berries,
seeds, grains, some sprouts, etc. Also considered a B-complex vitamin,
a.k.a. B17 -- Jay]. He further pointed out that chemotherapeutic agents
which are commonly used in the treatment of cancer are,
milligram-for-milligram, hundreds of times more toxic than Laetrile [I would
say they were thousands of times more toxic...maybe more -- Jay].

On cross-examination, the FDA attorney asked Dr. Halstead to give the
toxicity figure for some substance (I don't remember what the substance
was). Dr. Halstead said, pointing to the book in his lap but never opening
it, "On page 311, Table 2, in this book you will find that the toxicity of
that substance is .... "(whatever it was). The FDA attorney then named
another substance and asked for its toxicity figure. Dr. Halstead answered,
"On page 419, Table 3 shows it to be .... "(whatever it was). The attorney
tried a third time. Again, Dr. Halstead came up with the page number, table
number and toxicity.

The three FDA attorneys-stared at each other for a minute, then one of them
said, "How do you know all of this?" Dr. Halstead calmly replied, "Because I
wrote the book." "Impossible!" yelled the attorney. Without saying a word,
Dr. Halstead took the book from his lap and handed it to Judge Bohanon. The
Judge opened the book to its first page and read the following, "Textbook of
Toxicology, written by Dr. Bruce Halstead, as commissioned by the Food and
Drug Administration of the United States." The Judge said to the FDA
attorneys, "You fellows should have known that. You didn't do your homework
very well." The FDA attorneys had enough of Dr. Halstead. They dismissed him
from the stand.

...

In Chapter Five I mentioned the testimony of a doctor from the FDA who said
that Laetrile contains "free" hydrogen cyanide and, thus, is toxic.
Somewhere in this book I wanted to correct that misconception. Perhaps this
is the best time to do so.

There is no "free" hydrogen cyanide in Laetrile. As pointed out in Chapter
Two, when Laetrile comes in contact with the enzyme beta-glucosidase, the
Laetrile is broken down to form two molecules of glucose, one molecule of
benzaldehyde and one molecule of hydrogen cyanide (HCN). Within the body,
the cancer cell - and only the cancer ceil - contains that enzyme. The key
word here is that the HCN must be FORMED. It is not floating around freely
in the Laetrile and then released. It must be manufactured. The enzyme
beta-glucosidase, and only that enzyme, is capable of manufacturing the HCN
from Laetrile. If there are no cancer cells in the body, there is no
beta-glucosidase. If there is no beta-glucosidase, no HCN will be formed
from the Laetrile.

It is worthwhile repeating something I said in Chapter Two: In 1977 it was
thought that the hydrogen cyanide formed in the above-mentioned chemical
reaction exerted the toxic effect against the cancer cell. In the past
several years there has been much evidence to show that this chemical
reaction produces only a minute amount of hydrogen cyanide, that the
hydrogen cyanide is quickly converted to thiocyanate and probably has
little, if any, toxic effect on the cancer cell. It is the benzaldehyde
formed in this chemical reaction that is extremely toxic to the cancer
cell.1

Laetrile does contain the cyanide radical (CN-). This same cyanide radical
is contained in Vitamin B12, and in berries such as blackberries,
blueberries and strawberries. You never hear of anyone getting cyanide
poisoning from B12 or any of the above-mentioned berries, because they do
not. The cyanide radical (CN-) and hydrogen cyanide (HCN) are two completely
different compounds, just as pure sodium (Na+) - one of the most toxic
substances known to mankind - and sodium chloride (NaC1), which is table
salt, are two completely different compounds.

If the above is true, how did the story ever get started that Laetrile
contains "free" hydrogen cyanide? Guess! No, it was not G. Edward Griffin.
It was the Food and Drug Administration.


1 See Laetrile Case Histories; The Richardson Cancer Clinic Experience, by
John A. Richardson, M.D., and Patricia Griffin, R.N., B.S. Originally
published by American Media and later by Bantam. The book is currently out
of print.


From:

ALIVE AND WELL
One Doctor's Experience
with Nutrition in the
Treatment of
Cancer Patients

By  Philip E. Binzel, Jr., M.D.









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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 11:02:14 -0700
From: "Mark Hovila" <hovila@foxinternet.net>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] fibromyalgia

Hal,

> Do you know what EFT and NST are?

If you go to that web page those words are hyperlinked and you can read
about them by clicking on the words.  Again, the site is
http://www.mercola.com/2001/nov/7/fibromyalgia.htm.

Mark



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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 02:16:42 -0700
From: Greg Woolley <gregw@amitar.com.au>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] re: Toxins In Food and Cyanide

Jay Banks wrote:

> ... Laetrile does contain the cyanide radical (CN-). This same cyanide radical
>
> is contained in Vitamin B12, and in berries such as blackberries,
> blueberries and strawberries. You never hear of anyone getting cyanide
> poisoning from B12 or any of the above-mentioned berries, because they do
> not. The cyanide radical (CN-) and hydrogen cyanide (HCN) are two completely
> different compounds, just as pure sodium (Na+) - one of the most toxic
> substances known to mankind - and sodium chloride (NaC1), which is table
> salt, are two completely different compounds.
>
> If the above is true, how did the story ever get started that Laetrile
> contains "free" hydrogen cyanide? Guess! No, it was not G. Edward Griffin.
> It was the Food and Drug Administration.
>
> 1 See Laetrile Case Histories; The Richardson Cancer Clinic Experience, by
> John A. Richardson, M.D., and Patricia Griffin, R.N., B.S. Originally
> published by American Media and later by Bantam. The book is currently out
> of print.
>
> From:
>
> ALIVE AND WELL
> One Doctor's Experience
> with Nutrition in the
> Treatment of
> Cancer Patients
>
> By  Philip E. Binzel, Jr., M.D.
>

Jay,

am not sure the point you are making as I've already conceeded and agreed with
you that laetrile may indeed have beneficial qualities IF ingested in small
quantities. You haven't responded to my question of toxicity being related to
dose intake, your silence seems to indicate you still regard plant toxic
reactions as fallacy.

Here is a bit of information:-

Prussic Acid Poisoning in Livestock (Hydrogen cyanide)

C. D. Allison, Extension Range Management Specialist  R. D. Baker, Extension
Agronomist

Prussic acid poisoning can occur when livestock are pastured on sorghum type
plants, including grain sorghum, forage sorghum, sudangrass, sorghum sudangrass
crosses, Johnsongrass, sweet sorghums, and other sorghum-type plants. Prussic
acid poisoning (also known as cyanogenesis) is caused by hydrocyanic acid, one
of the most toxic and rapidly acting poisons. Although many plants contain
hydrocyanic acid, sorghum type plants contain amounts that can cause severe
poisoning. Cattle, sheep, and goats are most susceptible, while horses and swine
are generally not susceptible.

Mechanism of Prussic Acid Poisoning

Prussic acid can form in young sorghum-type plants or in the leaves of stressed
sorghum type plants. The poison can also form in an animal's rumen after eating
sorghum type plants. Prussic acid causes asphyxiation by inhibiting the action
of the enzyme that links oxygen with red blood cells.

Poison Symptoms and Treatment

Prussic acid poisoning can occur within a few minutes after an animal consumes
forage high in prussic acid potential. If poisoning occurs from within the
rumen, symptoms may take slightly longer to appear depending upon the animal's
condition, feed sources, and type and volume of forage consumed.

The first symptoms of prussic acid poisoning are accelerated and deep
respiration. The nose and mouth may become filled with foam, and in some cases,
involuntary urination may occur. These symptoms are followed by depression,
inability to stand, severe difficulty in breathing, and finally death.

Because prussic acid is one of the fastest acting poisons known, prompt
diagnosis and treatment are required. Extremely low levels of prussic acid are
toxic: only 2 mg per pound of body weight per hour will kill an animal. Plants
with more than 20 mg per 100 g (0.02%) are considered dangerous.

Two antidotes are used to treat prussic acid poisoned animals: sodium nitrate
and sodium thiosulfate. Recommended treatment is an intravenous injection of
1.2% sodium nitrate and 7.4% sodium thiosulfate in a 125-250 cc dose. If the
injection is given before the heart stops, the animal may be saved.

Take care that the animal is suffering from prussic acid poisoning rather than
nitrate poisoning: If a nitrate poisoned animal is treated with sodium nitrate
and sodium thiosulfate, it will die. The symptoms of prussic acid and nitrate
poisoning are similar. However, nitrate poisoning usually occurs several hours
after the animal has eaten high nitrate forage, and the animal's blood is dark
chocolate brown in contrast to the red venous blood of the prussic acid-poisoned
animal. Some veterinarians use methylene blue solution to treat both nitrate and
prussic acid poisoning.

Safe Use of Sorghum Forages

Prussic acid poisoning is most likely to occur under the following conditions:

Grazing young sorghum plants.

Grazing sorghum plants stressed by drought or freeze.

Grazing sorghum plants following a period of stress. (For example, plants may be
stressed shortly after a rain following drought or if regrowth occurs following
a light freeze.)

Grazing plants that have regrown following tissue damage from livestock traffic,
haying or mowing.

...

Follow these tips to help reduce the potential for prussic acid poisoning:

Use sorghum or other forage that has been thoroughly cured as hay or dry fodder.

Silage that has been stored for several months is generally safe.

Grazing dry forage after a hard freeze is also generally safe.

Sudangrass has much less potential for prussic acid poisoning than the sorghums
and is therefore much safer to use for grazing pasture.

After heading, most sorghums are safe to graze until frost.
http://www.cahe.nmsu.edu/pubs/_b/b-808.html
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TAKE A LESSON FROM THE DEER. I worked one summer in the laboratory of forage
scientist Dr. VanSoest at Cornell University. He said we should learn a lesson
from the deer. Deer can eat plants with no ill effect that are poisonous to
cattle. The difference is that deer are browsers. They eat a small amount of one
thing, then move on to many other things during the course of the day. In
contrast, when a cow likes something it keeps eating. The body is capable of
detoxifying small amounts of a great many things. This is sound advice to keep
in mind when evaluating plant nutrition and toxicities.
http://www.echonet.org/tropicalag/aztext/azch11an.htm#Take

TOXIC PLANTS CONSUMED BY GOATS MAY AFFECT HUMANS WHO DRINK THEIR MILK. A reader
sent us an interesting news note from the August 1983 issue of Popular Science.
Dr. Donald Crosby at the University of California at Davis reported that a woman
from a backwoods area had a deformed baby. Dr. Crosby noted a striking
resemblance to the deformed limbs of calves born to cows that forage such toxic
plants as lupines. Throughout her pregnancy, the woman had drunk milk from a
goat that had foraged freely in an area where lupines are abundant. Dr. Crosby
then fed lupine seeds to a goat and found dangerous levels of the toxins in the
milk four hours later. The goat in question had also given birth to deformed
offspring. The evidence is circumstantial, but persuasive. It is something you
should keep in mind.
http://www.echonet.org/tropicalag/aztext/azch11an.htm#Toxi

DO NOT EAT SPROUTED SORGHUM. You have heard of the added nutritional benefits
that can come from sprouting seeds before eating them. Grain sorghum is an
example of how it is not safe to assume that any edible seed can be eaten after
sprouting. According to an article in Science News, this practice used to be
recommended to improve the nutritional value of sorghum. The sprouts were eaten
fresh or dried and ground into a meal. "The average fatal dose of HCN (cyanide)
is 50 to 60 mg, and this amount was readily obtained from sprouts grown from 100
grams of sorghum seed. Consumption in a single meal of sorghum sprouts or the
dried product derived from 100 g of seed is entirely possible." Dried sprouts
retained the high levels of cyanide. The authors say this presents a special
risk to people with chronic cyanide poisoning from diets high in cassava and
sorghum grain. Sprouting could increase the already serious levels of cyanide in
their diets by as much as 500 to 1000 fold. We now have the original research
article and will share it with you if this is a matter of special concern.
http://www.echonet.org/tropicalag/aztext/azch11an.htm#DoNo
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Physiol Behav  2000 Jul 1-15;70(1-2):89-93

Effect of cassava consumption on open-field behavior and brain neurotransmitters
in albino rats.

Mathangi DC, Namasivayam A.

Department of Physiology, Dr.ALM.Postgraduate Institute of Basic Medical
Sciences, University of Madras, Taramani, 600 113, Madras, India.

Diet exerts a critical influence on human biology and thus studies on the
interrelationship of nutrition and behavior continues to be a major and
important focus of research in the natural experimental sciences. Cassava is
known to cause metabolic and neurological derangement on long-term consumption
as a staple diet in the tropics. In this article we present the effects of
cassava consumption on open-field behavior and catecholamine levels in the
hypothalamus of albino rats. Cassava consumption for 30 days alters the
emotional status of the rats, with changes in the basal neurotransmitter levels
in the hypothalamus. The role of the cyanide (liberated from cassava) and
protein deficiency (associated with cassava consumption) has been discussed.
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Ann Trop Paediatr  2000 Mar;20(1):34-40

Dietary cyanide from insufficiently processed cassava and growth retardation in
children in the Democratic Republic of Congo (formerly Zaire).

Banea-Mayambu JP, Tylleskar T, Tylleskar K, Gebre-Medhin M, Rosling H.

Centre National de Planification de Nutrition Humaine, Kinshasa, Democratic
Republic of Congo.

Dietary cyanide exposure from cyanogenic glucosides in insufficiently processed
cassava has been advanced as a contributing factor in child growth retardation.
Whether cyanide exposure aggravates children's growth retardation was studied by
comparing two populations of children from the northern and the southern zones
of the Bandundu region, Democratic Republic of Congo (former Zaire), using
dietary interviews, anthropometry and urine analyses. Both populations consumed
cassava as their staple diet, but whereas in the north the cassava was well
processed, in the south it was inadequately processed. The mean urinary
thiocyanate was much higher in the south, whereas mean urinary sulphate
excretion was equally low in the two areas. However, the mean urinary SCN/SO4
molar ratio was higher in the south (0.20), indicating that 10-20% of sulphur
amino-acids were used for cyanide detoxication. No significant differences were
found between the two populations in weight-for-height and weight-for-age
indices but the height-for-age index was significantly lower in children from
the south, indicating more severe growth retardation in children exposed to
dietary cyanide. Because of the preferential use of sulphur amino-acids for
cyanide detoxification in the human body, dietary cyanide exposure from cassava
may be a factor aggravating growth retardation in Bandundu.
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Greg Woolley





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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:44:32 -0400
From: Bob Avery <rwavery@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [rawlife] re: Toxins In Food and Cyanide

Jay,

>He then showed
>that aspirin, sugar and salt were, milligram-for-milligram, more toxic
than
>Laetrile [A concentrated form of a substance found in many wild berries,
>seeds, grains, some sprouts, etc. Also considered a B-complex vitamin,
>a.k.a. B17 -- Jay].

They are toxic all right.

>He further pointed out that chemotherapeutic agents
>which are commonly used in the treatment of cancer are,
>milligram-for-milligram, hundreds of times more toxic than Laetrile [I
would
>say they were thousands of times more toxic...maybe more -- Jay].

Probably so.  I certainly wouldn't wish chemotherapy on anyone.

>Laetrile does contain the cyanide radical (CN-). This same cyanide
radical
>is contained in Vitamin B12

Only in one form of B-12, which is considered to be toxic compared with
the other forms.  Unfortunately, that is the form that most supplement
manufacturers disseminate.

See http://www.mineralconnection.com/Methylcobalamin.htm

>just as pure sodium (Na+) - one of the most toxic
>substances known to mankind - and sodium chloride (NaC1), which is table
>salt, are two completely different compounds.

Though neither is especially good for your body.

Interesting story about Halstead and the FDA.

Bob Avery

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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 04:38:11 -0400
From: Joshua Townshend-Zellner <joshua@alchemyproductions.net> (by way of JR Ellis <jrellis@rawtimes.com>)
Subject: [rawlife] Raw, Wild & Living in LA -- New dinners and old Pals ....

Greetings Raw, Wild & Living in LA:

Okay MAJOR events happening in the community right now – lots of changes 
and lots and lots of amazing and lovely Raw, Wild & Living Vegan cuisine 
out there for all of us to enjoy.   The list now goes in order of dates not 
importance AND I must mention a few things right now …

1. It is Matt’s Birthday on Tuesday, Sept. 17th – and  --  bless his heart 
he is serving it up at The Living Light House all the same.  So make sure 
to come by and wish him a good year.
2. On Sept. 20th there is a Living Foods retreat in Hawaii, with David 
Wolfe.  There are a few spaces left at a special last minute rate only 2 
spaces left – so if you have that wild hair up your … and you want to go – 
just call Dancing Butterfly aka Kerrie at 949.290.6199 no later than Monday 
at 6:00 p.m.


Tuesday Sept. 17th.

Matt’s Birthday at The Living Light House.  – Drop by The Living Light 
House on Tuesday night and have some GREAT food and wish Matt a happy 
Birthday YEAR.  7:30 until Sergio goes home … usually about 9:30.

Thursday Sept. 19th

RAW & ALL THAT JAZZ WITH LESA.  An evening of light jazz and raw foods with 
Neo Jazz singer Lesa Carlson, the Raw Witch of Seed Live Cuisine presents: 
Taste South Africa Tea Party in the Raw At Rooibos Tea House 503 N. Fairfax 
(on the corner of Rosewood, between Beverly and Melrose)  @ 7:00 p.m.  $20 
at the door gets you live music and a plethora of gourmet raw appetizers 
and sun tea.

RAW FOOD PREP CLASS WITH URSULA & JERRY -- Changing your Life for Good: How 
to be well more often  with  Ursula  & Jerry
Thursday, September 19th, from 5.30 to 9.00 p.m.
at 16661 Lynn St. Unit A
Huntington Beach, CA 92649
Cost for the class: $40.00 (including complete dinner)
For details go to www.goodmoodfood.com

Friday Sept. 20th.

Playtime in Paradise!!! Maui, Hawaii September 20-26th
Special Guests David Wolfe  & Jeremy Safron

Join a fun-loving staff for a rejuvenating living foods adventure getaway
at the plush Hale Akua Shangri-La Retreat Center. The facility is
sprawled over 2 secluded acres, perched atop the cliffs of Maui’s North
Shore, blessed with breathtaking ocean views.  If you want to go and you 
know you to – just call Dancing Butterfly aka Kerrie at 949.290.6199 no 
later than Monday at 6:00 p.m



Saturday Sept. 21st .

Chef Ito at Au Lac Restaurant in Fountain Valley / Orange County area.  If 
you have not been to one of Ito’s dinner – it is a MUST experience.  16565 
Brookhurst Street in Fountain Valley – right off the 405 freeways.  Dinner 
at 5 or 7 p.m. Reservations are a must – call 714.418.0658.  $25.00 + tax 
and tip.

MJ Organic World in Old Town Pasadena. – a New Raw Life Food place to eat 
and hang.  Red Fox (Mary Ascension Saulnier) and Cicada (Rachel Macias) 
have teamed up  to co-create the first, all organic restaurant in the San 
Gabriel Valley.

On Saturday, September 21, 11:00am - 12:30pm  they will teach how to do Raw 
Dessert Preparation.  Class fee - $35.00

MJ ORGANIC WORLD
39 NORTH ARROYO PARKWAY
PASADENA, CA 91103
TEL. 626 577 4480


Saturday Sept. 28th  .

Chef Ito at Au Lac Restaurant in Fountain Valley / Orange County area.  If 
you have not been to one of Ito’s dinner – it is a MUST experience.  16565 
Brookhurst Street in Fountain Valley – right off the 405 freeways.  Dinner 
at 5 or 7 p.m. Reservations are a must – call 714.418.0658.  $25.00 + tax 
and tip.


Ani and Ede do the Smart Monkey thing again in Pasadena. The next special 
dinner event is in O L D   T O W N ,  P A S A D E N A  Special Friends and 
Family Dinner
6 - 9 pm
Advance tickets are $35.00
SmartMonkey Foods
Organic Living Cuisine
<http://www.smartmonkey.com/raw>http://www.smartmonkey.com/raw
626.793.9394

Sunday Sept. 29th

Save this date for World Fest. WorldFest-large  scale multifaceted Vegan 
food and music festival
Woodley Park in Van Nuys
10 am to way late.
Tons of Raw, Wild 7 Living Vegan food booths ++ live Music – Yeah man what 
could be finer than to hang out with you all on this date.
SAVE THIS DATE and I will see you all there.  Details go to.
www.worldfestevents.com

Dinner with Lesa Carlson at Elixir .  8pm at Elixir, 8612 Melrose Avenue, 
corner of Huntley (across the street from Bodhi Tree) The highest quality 
organic Raw Vegan Cuisine Limited Seating, $100/person; RSVP @ 323- 906-0101




AND COMING UP IN OCTOBER ….

Nature's First Law's Grand Opening Party!

Come and celebrate the Grand Opening of Nature's First Law's new 11,000 sq. 
ft. Raw-Food Superstore in San Diego, California!

Activities include:
* David Wolfe seminar
* Gourmet raw-food, organic buffet feast
* David Wolfe and Stephen Arlin booksignings
* Live music by the all-raw Healing Waters Band
* and much more!

When: Saturday, October 26, 2002, 4:00 pm to 10:00 pm
Where: Nature's First Law, 1567 N. Cuyamaca St., El Cajon, CA 92020
Admission: $40/person
Advance reservations are required!
To register, please call 619-596-7979 or 800-205-2350
This event will sell out. Please register early!

****   NOW THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS WEEKLY ….. & MORE  *****


Monday Night with MATT. If you want AMAZING raw, living food Come to the 
Living Light House on Monday nights.  Dinner Starts at 7:30 p.m.  This is a 
sit down meal served to you at your table.  Donation is  $20.00 A great 
night to introduce your family and Friends to raw, living Vegan food.  1457 
12th Street. North East Corner of 12th & Broadway in Santa Monica.

TUEDAY NIGHT with Matt.   New things are cooking up – so to speak – at The 
Living Light House.  Matt is now offering dinner’s ala Carte with an 
extensive list of up to 12 items to choose from. Mix and Match and design 
your own Gourmet dinner.  Items range fro $2 to $6.  Starts at 7:30 so get 
there early so you can select from the finest. Items on the menu that night 
– this night does sell out, so come early.
&
Tuesday night with Raw-Volution. Living Organic Vegan Entrees, prepared by 
Matt.  This offering is a great way to have gourmet raw, living Vegan 
ORGANIC; lunches and dinners prepared for you to enjoy at home, work or on 
location.  Great picnic lunches and more.   You can have your order 
DELIVERED to you or you can pick up your meals at The Living Light House at 
1457 12th Street.  For more information, prices, menus, and other details 
call Matt at 310.721.4222



Thursday Nights with chef Michael at The Living Light House.  This is 
another great night to sit down and enjoy an array of freshly prepared all 
raw, wild Vegan dishes lovingly prepared by Michael;/.  Donation 
$15.00.   Location 1457 12th Street, Santa Monica, CA 90401 310.395.6337

Sunday, Santa Monica Farmer’s Market –Main street.  Devin and Lesa have a 
raw living Vegan food booth where they sell fine living foods and young 
Thai coconuts.  Make sure to drop by and get some yummy food – prepared by 
the folks at Seed.

Sunday night is Pot Luck night at The Light House.  A very spontaneous 
night of raw living VEGAN depends on who shows up as to what is for 
dinner.  Bring a dish that is Raw, Living Vegan for 4 to 6 guests and some 
utensils for you.  House donation of $3.00 for the space. Time 7:00 
p.m.  Location.  1457 12th Street.  Santa Monica, CA.  90401

On Going –Seed Living Foods -- New delivery Service for homes and 
businesses. This is the launch of the newly reconfigured company.  Among 
the changes you'll see we're now delivering one meal at a time, five days a 
week -- to absolutely ensure premium quality and freshness.  Lesa  Carlson 
is the Executive Chef.  Some of you may be familiar with the extremely 
high-end, gourmet raw food.   If you would like to order by phone or speak 
with   someone directly, please call us at (310) 454-0547.  NOTE :: Seed, 
the Living Vegan home delivery services is offering your first meal at a 
special – one time only to subscribers to Raw. Wild & Living in LA – 50% 
your first individual meal.  Ring them at (310) 454-0547 for details or 
www.seedcuisine.com

Inn of the 7th Ray in Topanga Canyon now offers a Living Vegan menu on 
Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights.

2nd and 4th Sunday of the Month – With Gerry & Ushi in Orange County.  Call 
1.714.840.6640 for details.  ALSO … Ushi and Gerry of Good Mood Food are 
now doing Take-a-way Meals. for details to: www.goodmoodfood.com


When in the SF area there is … Roxanne's
320 Magnolia Ave., Larkspur, (415) 924-5004. Open for dinner
5:30 to 10:30 p.m. Tuesday through Sunday.  When in the SF area please go 
and support our every growing community.


Sunday Gourmet Raw Vegan Brunch at The Malibu Phoenix – in Malibu CA.


Special Gourmet Vegan Raw Brunch, from 1PM - 3PM with different programs 
and entertainment most weekends. This first time event will be at a special 
price of $25 and it includes use of the property for the rest of the day 
[swimming pool, Jacuzzi, hiking, etc.]  To be one of the first to RSVP, 
please call Dennis @ 310-589-2768.  I will post another letter in a day or 
two with the menu & other specifics.
, Fred @ 310-457-5119 or go to our web sites for more information.
Love & Light,
Dennis "Three Eagles" Knicely, Webmaster & Events Coordinator 310-589-2768
www.MalibuPhoenix.com & www.Malibu-Weddings.com
For 3 different maps, go to: 
<http://www.malibu-weddings.com/directions_to_malibu_phoenix.htm>http://www.malibu-weddings.com/directions_to_malibu_phoenix.htm 



Joshua Townshend-Zellner
Alchemy Productions
www.AlchemyProductions.net
310.273.9476 



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